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Post by SURESHOT on Jul 15, 2022 12:03:27 GMT -5
I will have to get some numbers on muzzle vl. and try both 300/400 yards with the CVA SCOUT
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Post by buckeye68 on Jul 17, 2022 19:52:19 GMT -5
Hankins Scout V2 with DI -
275 Pittman, H4198, Federal GM215M primers; average muzzle velocity was 2650 fps
300 Pittman AeroMax, H4198, Federal GM215M primers, average muzzle velocity was 2547 fps with a BC of 392.0 lab radar verified.
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Post by SURESHOT on Jul 18, 2022 5:50:18 GMT -5
Hankins Scout V2 with DI - 275 Pittman, H4198, Federal GM215M primers; average muzzle velocity was 2650 fps 300 Pittman AeroMax, H4198, Federal GM215M primers, average muzzle velocity was 2547 fps with a BC of 392.0 lab radar verified. Thanks for your info, all that have the Scout V2 here have the HIS system installed. With the HIS the velocity will be a little slower but will check with the radar. But your info gives me a good estimated guess ! |
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Post by booner22 on Jul 19, 2022 21:47:39 GMT -5
I have an asg ignition but my avg velocity with the 275 was under what was posted with a di by about 25fps at 2625.
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Post by SURESHOT on Jul 20, 2022 5:03:47 GMT -5
I have an asg ignition but my avg velocity with the 275 was under what was posted with a di by about 25fps at 2625. Thanks for your info! When we have a day (an early morning) here in NC that's not so hot I will get some data with a CVA SCOUT V2. |
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Post by buckstuds on Jul 20, 2022 18:39:38 GMT -5
Is there any black blued or v2 for sale anywhere in this country. I would like to have one converted but can,t find one for sale. Message buckstuds were to look.
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Post by dennis on Jul 20, 2022 19:30:35 GMT -5
Is there any black blued or v2 for sale anywhere in this country. I would like to have one converted but can,t find one for sale. Message buckstuds were to look. BUDSGUNSHOP.COM has the blued /blk $320. They are in Ky. |
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Post by dennis on Jul 20, 2022 19:33:47 GMT -5
Is there any black blued or v2 for sale anywhere in this country. I would like to have one converted but can,t find one for sale. Message buckstuds were to look. BUDSGUNSHOP.COM has the blued /blk $320. They are in Ky. FINFEATHERFUR has them in stock for online sales $296.99 blued/blk |
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Post by SURESHOT on Aug 7, 2022 9:45:24 GMT -5
As mention back at the range, shot (2) 3 shot groups. With the CVA SCOUT V2 IMR 4198 65 grains with a Pittman 275 setting on a wool wad, the velocity from first to sixth as follows 1). 2562 2). 2556 3).2531 4.) 2615 5.) 2519 and 6.) 2500 what a difference, with the first shot of six, little pressure pushing down to set on powder charge, each other shot increased pressure on seating bullet with the first three shots fired about the same with second three, although more pressure on last two shots fired. I use a RCBS CHARGE MASTER powder scale, hopefully someone will have some idea of why pictures to follow,,,
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Post by SURESHOT on Aug 7, 2022 9:51:58 GMT -5
As mention back at the range, shot (2) 3 shot groups. With the CVA SCOUT V2 IMR 4198 65 grains with a Pittman 275 setting on a wool wad,100 yards, the velocity from first to sixth as follows 1). 2562 2). 2556 3).2531 4.) 2615 5.) 2519 and 6.) 2500 what a difference, with the first shot of six, little pressure pushing down to set on powder charge, each other shot increased pressure on seating bullet with the first three shots fired about the same with second three, although more pressure on last two shots fired. I use a RCBS CHARGE MASTER powder scale, hopefully someone will have some idea of why pictures to follow,,, three shot group at the top were the first shots fired, then the next three located at the bottom which opened up. click on pic to be upright as the target was hanging, thanks    |
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Post by SURESHOT on Aug 7, 2022 9:54:52 GMT -5
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Post by SURESHOT on Aug 7, 2022 9:56:50 GMT -5
Plan to retry the IMR 4198 and load the same each time May have to try some N120 60 to 63 grains,,,,
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Post by Deputy819 on Aug 7, 2022 11:46:47 GMT -5
Back when I had a scout conversion my load was 62 grains IMR 4198, wool wad and a Fury 275gr ‘MZ’. As long as the “nut behind the trigger” was working that load consistently went into a half-minute at 200 yards for a muzzle velocity of 2,482 (+/-) fps. When I did my velocity ladder the ‘sweet spot’ using Fury’s was in between 61 & 62 grains. I tried shooting the ‘recommended’ 65 grain charge several times, but never could get any more than 2+ inch groups at 200 yards out of it for a muzzle velocity just shy of 2,600 fps. Certainly fine for deer hunting at that distance, but I wanted tighter & more consistent groups…..even if it meant less velocity. 😇
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Post by SURESHOT on Aug 8, 2022 11:38:05 GMT -5
Back when I had a scout conversion my load was 62 grains IMR 4198, wool wad and a Fury 275gr ‘MZ’. As long as the “nut behind the trigger” was working that load consistently went into a half-minute at 200 yards for a muzzle velocity of 2,482 (+/-) fps. When I did my velocity ladder the ‘sweet spot’ using Fury’s was in between 61 & 62 grains. I tried shooting the ‘recommended’ 65 grain charge several times, but never could get any more than 2+ inch groups at 200 yards out of it for a muzzle velocity just shy of 2,600 fps. Certainly fine for deer hunting at that distance, but I wanted tighter & more consistent groups…..even if it meant less velocity. 😇 Reading your post my muzzle vl may be very close especially the first (3) shots and the group its under half inch at 100, have loaded up some charges, and will try the N120 62/63 grains and see what we have, I have a bolt gun, well thanks to JIMBOB I have two! I have them for both hunting and shooting, thanks for your input |
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Post by SURESHOT on Aug 12, 2022 10:59:53 GMT -5
Well have another CVA SCOUT V2 ready for the range hopefully in the morning.... Same load, Meopta glass
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Post by SURESHOT on Aug 13, 2022 10:27:00 GMT -5
went to the range and really did not do a lot,, just Zeroed the SCOUT for a friend ( scope was adjusted) will be heading back in September for the fine tuning and update , last (2) shots  |
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Post by hillbill on Aug 14, 2022 6:37:04 GMT -5
JMO but I would try my starting charge at a lower charge rate and then go up.
Break action guns are harder to get to group than bigger, heavier bolt guns.
Keep in mind when you take speed readings that you need several shots through the barrel to get a consistent fouling before getting overly concerned about es and some powders are very different than others in this regard.
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Post by SURESHOT on Sept 2, 2022 5:45:52 GMT -5
Been away a few days, as I mentioned hope to return to the range next few days with some scouts, also have one to set up with a Vortex scope, riding in Vortex 30 mm six screw rings more to come (hopefully)
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Post by SURESHOT on Sept 24, 2022 7:23:39 GMT -5
Well a small up date, I have been to the range with (2) more scouts both shot very well (no PICTURES, sorry) Had one for a newbe to the SCOPED muzzle loader rifle world and long story short he has now sold it to the owner of the other CVA SCOUT after getting punched between the eyes with the scope. The other gentleman he wanted it for his wife's son once he saw how these Scouts, cut holes at a 100 yards dead on at 200yds. 6 inches low at 300yds. So will be heading back out this week with a couple more will bring back some pictures and how they performed,,,, forgot to mention the friend that now has both SCOUTS he wants to use his without the brake so after zeroing at 100 with the brake POI elevation was the same and about 1/2 inch to right with this CVA,
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Post by SURESHOT on Sept 26, 2022 14:25:23 GMT -5
well did make it to the range with the CVA fired it at 100 yards, picture will follow not bad for(2) shots BUT did not like the results at 200 and 300, compared to others. Got back home and adjusted the stock screw, feels a lot better now, sized a few more PITTMANS 275 and will have to go back. Most of the time at both 2 and 300 yards they group really well but with these they opened up,  |
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