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Post by blackpowder72 on Aug 28, 2021 14:54:56 GMT -5
Just an update with the many suggestions of the use of wool wads and these break action CVA SCOUT, I obtain some from KYLE at Pittman Bullets,, arrived back at the range not only with the ML that I had problems with but with another one also. The new one after Zeroing I could tell this one was also going to be a scattergun just as the previous one, loaded them both 65 grains 4198, wool wad one with Fury the other with Pittman 275 grainers, First gun mention two in the same hole third shot 3/8 inch away, two more shots after adjusting scope for impact same hole, the newer CVA 3 shots 3/4 inch group all at 100 yards! thanks to all with the concern and advisement. THANKS!!!!!!! The first gun you shot is the one you had trouble with? Are you happy with it now ? Second gun 3/4 in group ain't bad. I bet if you play with powder charge a little it will tighten up a little.
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Post by SURESHOT on Aug 28, 2021 17:32:33 GMT -5
neither of these CVA SCOUTS belong to me, But they are CVA SCOUTS 45/70 converted to the 45ml just as the ones Hank offers up, and your right little work with the powder charge will improve the accuracy, along with the wool wad,. the owners are not paper punchers, although I like to hunt like they do but I want my guns to shoot! Both of these shot really well, I tried the picture thing and will try again, email the owner for a picture of his target, but have another one i will try to post up. Okay he sent the picture is the new one bottom two shots, then pulled one (really) then the bottom two after adjustment he wanted 3 inch high at 100yd the middle target is his before wool wad! three shots, third target was another scout no wads,,,,, Attachments:
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Post by floyd on Aug 29, 2021 6:57:04 GMT -5
Are you shooting with the brake on it?
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Post by SURESHOT on Aug 29, 2021 7:05:50 GMT -5
Are you shooting with the brake on it? yes with the Brake,
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Post by SURESHOT on Aug 29, 2021 8:02:10 GMT -5
Just dump in the powder put wad in and let the bullet push it to the powder charge. I believe you will get good results with the wad. I would try it with the wool wad and 65 first and if that doesn’t tighten up the group then try the ladder JMO did as you mentioned dennis seated with firm pressure and with the 65 grains and wool wad tighten the group up.............
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Post by kip on Aug 31, 2021 23:11:25 GMT -5
thats great! good to hear.
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Post by SURESHOT on Sept 1, 2021 5:40:38 GMT -5
thats great! good to hear. Thanks!
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Post by buckeye68 on Sept 1, 2021 14:00:41 GMT -5
With the right powder charge and die setting and a little work, it will shoot MOA or better at 100 yards. I shot a .322” at the Fall Kentucky Challenge with my Scout. Can’t beat them for the money.
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Post by Hank on Sept 1, 2021 14:07:48 GMT -5
Make sure the forearm locks up tight onto the hanger. If its loose you can adjust the screw on the hanger to put more tension on the forearm.
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Post by SURESHOT on Sept 1, 2021 15:37:02 GMT -5
Make sure the forearm locks up tight onto the hanger. If its loose you can adjust the screw on the hanger to put more tension on the forearm. thanks! I will check that
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Post by SURESHOT on Sept 4, 2021 10:52:23 GMT -5
Make sure the forearm locks up tight onto the hanger. If its loose you can adjust the screw on the hanger to put more tension on the forearm. Hank by putting more tension on the forearm will that help with the accuracy? also I assume your talking about the black screw? thanks
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Post by Hank on Sept 4, 2021 11:47:09 GMT -5
Yes, and Yes.
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Post by kip on Sept 5, 2021 3:39:55 GMT -5
the adjustment under the forearm is a black, smooth headed screw that is locked in place with a very tiny set screw. if you back the smooth headed screw out a tiny bit this will tighten up the forearm and also the tightness of the action or union between the action and barrel. My conversion needed adjusting and my 6.5 creedmoor scout was already good and tight. It can really make a difference in accuracy. It takes very little adjusting on that screw to make a difference in tightening everything up.
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Post by SURESHOT on Sept 5, 2021 4:52:33 GMT -5
the adjustment under the forearm is a black, smooth headed screw that is locked in place with a very tiny set screw. if you back the smooth headed screw out a tiny bit this will tighten up the forearm and also the tightness of the action or union between the action and barrel. My conversion needed adjusting and my 6.5 creedmoor scout was already good and tight. It can really make a difference in accuracy. It takes very little adjusting on that screw to make a difference in tightening everything up. thanks so much for the info you provided!
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Post by SURESHOT on Feb 19, 2022 7:13:40 GMT -5
the adjustment under the forearm is a black, smooth headed screw that is locked in place with a very tiny set screw. if you back the smooth headed screw out a tiny bit this will tighten up the forearm and also the tightness of the action or union between the action and barrel. My conversion needed adjusting and my 6.5 creedmoor scout was already good and tight. It can really make a difference in accuracy. It takes very little adjusting on that screw to make a difference in tightening everything up. this black screw that is being held with a set screw can anyone tell me the size allen wrench that fits this small set screw thanks!
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Post by flattopusa on Feb 20, 2022 14:01:45 GMT -5
My CVA Hunter 44 cal that Hank did for me would shoot a horizontal group (over two inches) with near zero vertical (photo right)....My CVA 444 Cartridge gun would do the same. I tightened up on the forearm screws and that solved the issue (photo left). That was the only change I made and shot the groups back to back in succession, within a few minutes of each other.
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Post by olegburn on Feb 20, 2022 17:10:31 GMT -5
There’s two screws there Did you tighten both? And how tight?
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Post by flattopusa on Feb 20, 2022 17:38:33 GMT -5
There’s two screws there Did you tighten both? And how tight? Yes I tightened both.....I didnt wrench down on them but they are very snug. I have a floated barrel (plastic spacers) and "O" rings under the screw heads so it would be impossible to get them too tight. I would start with "Snug" then tighten the screws a bit for each group you shoot of the same load until the groups shrink in size. If you tighten them too much the plastic of the forearm will compress or be deformed and you dont want that. There is a sweet spot and you will have to find it.
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Post by SURESHOT on Feb 23, 2022 6:41:22 GMT -5
There’s two screws there Did you tighten both? And how tight? Yes there are (2) screws we have one that is an adjustment screw , then one that is a set screw to hold the adjustment screw in place as you know, I have a friend that has one and my allen wrench set both metric and standard does not seem to fit, or is it a star bit type, thanks
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Post by spikes on Feb 23, 2022 9:41:11 GMT -5
There’s two screws there Did you tighten both? And how tight? Yes there are (2) screws we have one that is an adjustment screw , then one that is a set screw to hold the adjustment screw in place as you know, I have a friend that has one and my allen wrench set both metric and standard does not seem to fit, or is it a star bit type, thanks I unfortunately don’t know the exact size but it is indeed an Allen screw. I had to go buy a larger set of Allen wrenches to get one small enough to fit it. My standard set did not have one small enough
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