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Post by outlaw on Mar 20, 2016 18:06:35 GMT -5
ive asked this before but i dont recall what the general consensus was...next week im ordering a sizing die i just aint sure if i should go smooth or full. does one produce better results than the other or is it just a matter of tuning either to produce desired results??
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2016 18:22:03 GMT -5
ive asked this before but i dont recall what the general consensus was...next week im ordering a sizing die i just aint sure if i should go smooth or full. does one produce better results than the other or is it just a matter of tuning either to produce desired results?? This is a much debated topic. IMHO I'd get a smooth form die to begin with then, if you have your barrel drop, go ahead and get the full form.
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Post by Kyle on Mar 20, 2016 18:23:27 GMT -5
Where is the deer eating popcorn?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2016 18:27:33 GMT -5
Where is the deer eating popcorn? I shot that bastard, with a smooth formed 275 Parker BE
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Post by Kyle on Mar 20, 2016 18:29:03 GMT -5
I use the Hankin's Combo Die that is capable of smooth and full forming. Smooth forming is my preferred method of sizing.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2016 18:35:09 GMT -5
I'd go with the combo.
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Post by keith on Mar 20, 2016 18:44:27 GMT -5
Get the combo. FF is the answer if you plan to go long. It's a small cost increase even if you never use it. Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it. Smooth is easier to get going with while full takes better understanding but has a bigger payoff once you have it pat.
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Post by Richard on Mar 20, 2016 19:39:25 GMT -5
I have two dies...............both will FF or Smooth size...........................The FF insert is just collecting dust It is more of a PIA and have not seen the "means justifying the end!" Maybe, just maybe if you are planning on shooting over 400 yards or so it "may?" have an edge?
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Post by hillbill on Mar 20, 2016 19:54:03 GMT -5
you didn't mention what barrel you have? If you happen to have a 20 twist Brux Jeff can fix you up with a dual purpose, If not a barrel drop is needed and one of us might have what you need.
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Post by outlaw on Mar 20, 2016 19:57:58 GMT -5
pac nor 1-20
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Post by hillbill on Mar 20, 2016 19:58:06 GMT -5
I have done a good bit of full forming and I like Keith believe FF MIGHT hold an advantage with the thicker jacketed bullets and at longer distances, say past 400. with the thinner jackets I see no benefit? JMO
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Post by outlaw on Mar 20, 2016 20:03:07 GMT -5
are the 300g sst' good candidtates for smooth. been hunting/shooting 200g sst out to 300 yds for three years now. i find them to be both accurate and economical but of course thats with sabots & shooting below 50°
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Post by Richard on Mar 20, 2016 21:14:12 GMT -5
The 300 gr. SST is very capable of 300 yard deer kills smooth sized. With a good rifle and trigger puller and a the right loads, five shots in 4" is very doable. You will get occasional three shoters MOA. Probably a bullet like Kyle's AccuMax will give consistently smaller groups. They would be my choice if I was extending my range beyond 300 to 350! We are really expecting accuracy levels from a bullet more specifically designed for pistols and saboted .50 cal. smoke poles being driven much slower and with less rotational speed.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2016 21:55:15 GMT -5
Shot my first 300+ (309 yards) yard deer last year with the 300 SST. The bullet anchored him in his tracks, he was dead before he hit the ground. From 300-400 yards the 300 SST will still work but really you should look at the AccuMax, B.O.M.B. or the Parker Match Hunter bullets for that task. You want to take out as many variables when shooting long range and these bullets will shoot better in the wind as the SST will.
I love the Hornady SST bullets but I will be shooting the B.O.M.B. 300's next year for mule deer season here in Nebraska. The 180" will not be getting away this time!!
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