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Post by speedrackin on Mar 7, 2016 17:54:38 GMT -5
Got my 700 Hankins last week got her fitted to a Boyds pro varmint ..... got parker 275 be sized and dialed in pretty good with 75 grn of 4198 , Hornadys well thats another story im not sure if its the powder charge or the size . whats seems to be the favorite load of 4198
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Post by gar on Mar 7, 2016 18:51:47 GMT -5
To me the Hornady's seem harder. I have shot them but not nearly as well as the Parker's. Don't know if it is an obturation difference or if the sizing needs to be tweeked to maybe be a bit tighter. I also like the 75 gr. charges.
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Post by rojo23 on Mar 7, 2016 18:52:40 GMT -5
I shoot 78 grains with the parker 275, and I also shoot 78 grains with the hornady 250.
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Post by Hank on Mar 7, 2016 21:00:50 GMT -5
The Hornady bullets don't usually shoot near as good as the softer bullets we have available.. I believe it's obturation that's makes the difference.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2016 21:29:28 GMT -5
I had my full form die in the press and ran a few .452 ssts for a mcgowen .458...I had to index them but they shot great in Big Mac ...
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Post by Richard on Mar 7, 2016 21:50:28 GMT -5
Hornady's are a great bullet for most shooting and hunting conditions but if you are looking for extreme accuracy and consistency you will probably need a custom bullet with a softer (or thinner) jacket as Hank mentioned. You will probably not get a bullet to do everything you want whether its a muzzle loader or center fire bullet. There is give and take with all of them. Use the Hornady's and Sierra's to develop loads and practice with then zero in with the bullet you want to hunt with such as the AccuMax that Kyle sells.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2016 0:20:54 GMT -5
Obturation is the key when shooting Hornadys or Barnes...My Brux shoots them both great with a little booster to give them a good kick in the pants....They make a good 300yd bullet....Accurate and deadly..Killed a few with them out to 325yd.
Zen
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Post by speedrackin on Mar 8, 2016 7:16:24 GMT -5
There is no doubt my hunting bullet will be an AccMax....Parkers being second. That mite explain why the 225 ftx flew pretty good with 65 grns they are the thinner jacket of the FTX bullets ,I try runnin the 250 a little faster and go from there hopefully ill have this beauty dialed in for the challenge .
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Post by GMB54-120 on Mar 8, 2016 14:41:16 GMT -5
Sierra offers a .458 300gr HP/FN with a thin jacket and soft lead core. I size them down in 2 or 3 steps and they shoot fine. I can size them with ease using a Lee hand press so they must be pretty soft compared to the SST or FTX. Even the little 225gr FTX is harder resizing from .452 to .450 than the Sierra is from .458 to .454 in the first step.
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Post by Richard on Mar 8, 2016 15:45:51 GMT -5
I have gotten good results with Sierra's 300 gr. .452 FN PistolSmith bullets!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2016 19:54:27 GMT -5
Sierra offers a .458 300gr HP/FN with a thin jacket and soft lead core. I size them down in 2 or 3 steps and they shoot fine. I can size them with ease using a Lee hand press so they must be pretty soft compared to the SST or FTX. Even the little 225gr FTX is harder resizing from .452 to .450 than the Sierra is from .458 to .454 in the first step. The .458 Speer 300gr hollowpoint (part # 2482) is a sleeper. It is bonded but for some reason is listed as a plinking bullet. I t is a real killer that shoots great. |
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Post by GMB54-120 on Mar 9, 2016 11:01:35 GMT -5
I have gotten good results with Sierra's 300 gr. .452 FN PistolSmith bullets! Have you ever read Sierras description of that bullet? They claim it has the hardest lead they have ever used. Ive never tried them through a sizing die but the .458 300gr goes through my Lee dies with incredible ease. I wish i had the equipment to reshape the .458s nose into a semi spitzer  |
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Post by elkman1310 on Mar 10, 2016 12:50:59 GMT -5
I have had outstanding groups with Hornaday 300gr SST in all the barrels I use. Shilen ,Douglas and now X-Caliber. To make Hornaday 300 gr SST shot the best they need to be sized as loose as possible. I use straight powder charges of either 70 or 73 grs of IMR 4198 and a CCI 209 Mag primer and the thick wool wad. Richards says they stink maybe so but I have consistently shot 3 shot groups in the .200 to .300 at 100 yards.
Many people have not heard of X-Caliber barrels. There are a new company out of Montana. They are making a very good barrel. They are button rifled. I put one on my new 6MM Dasher for 1000 yard competition and a 30Cal in 300WSM I have shot both at 1000 yards this week. The Dasher shot 2.750" for (5) shots and the 300WSM was 4" with three bullets touching each other. The interior finish is excellent on all their barrels.
Their .458 1-18 barrel bore scoped the same as the other barrels. They will do custom contours and they will flute. Be careful if you order a #20 Sendero taper the shank will be to short for a Rem muzzleloader action. I used it one a Savage and it worked out fine. No barrel nut that makes the barrel to thin for my peace of mind.
I just mounted another scope on this Savage/X-Caliber build so I can do a range report in the next few days
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Post by Richard on Mar 10, 2016 16:40:13 GMT -5
That was the stink of the wool burning, not Carl's groups  |
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