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Post by buckstuds on Jan 16, 2016 19:29:13 GMT -5
After reading about all these awesome guns, I started my build.I had a converted apex but wanted more power. I had richard build me a lite weight dream. Started with a stainless rem 700ml, and then added a bell and carlsen stock, pac nor sendaro barrel and lukes goodies. Richard did all the bedding and trigger work and head spacing perfectly. A vortex viper hs 2.5x10x44 with talley one piece mounts. The gun weighs a total of 8lbs14ounces.The first week out shooting sabots was good, but not good enough.(under an inch 3 shot group) This week I took barnes 195 and knurled them up .002 and put them in light blue sabots. Then ran I ran the whole sabot and bullet thru my sizing die to get better bullet to sabot contact. It worked awesome, three shot group of .457 at 75 yards.By doing this I shrank my group by half from the week before. Pics to follow
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Post by Richard on Jan 16, 2016 19:43:12 GMT -5
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Post by rlp10ml on Jan 16, 2016 20:22:45 GMT -5
Great looking gun Lyman,Richard did a fine job!
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Post by schunter on Jan 16, 2016 22:07:53 GMT -5
Congrats on your build and great shooting...
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Post by mike on Jan 17, 2016 1:02:12 GMT -5
Very sharp looking rifle! I am new to all this, but I've never heard of sizing the bullet while contained in the sabot. Very cool idea and great shooting. Maybe a newby question: Why did you have to knurl the bullet diameter up .002"? What does the barrel bore diameter measure? What does the non-sized sabot outside diameter measure? Just trying to wrap my head around this. Thanks.
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Post by gar on Jan 17, 2016 5:41:19 GMT -5
Knurling will do two things, one is to enlarge the dia. slightly and the second is it will rough up the surface of the bullet so there will be no slippage between bullet and sabot.
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Post by hillbill on Jan 17, 2016 8:26:27 GMT -5
That's a nice little carry rig, I have built several on the same stock myself in the same weight range. groups like that with the 195s will put a deer/elk/moose/ or whatever you want to shoot on the ground in short order, that's one killer of a little bullet.
GOOD SHOOTING...
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Post by itneverends22 on Jan 17, 2016 8:40:39 GMT -5
nice looking rig, well done, good shooting..
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Post by linebaugh on Jan 17, 2016 9:12:58 GMT -5
Thanks for posting that Buckstuds/Richard. I have thought about an lightweight muzzy before but never acted on it. Glad to see sombody else did it and did a great job BTW.
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Post by hawghunter on Jan 17, 2016 9:59:21 GMT -5
Just curious, did you shoot any groups of the knurled bullets without running them through the sizing die?
My groups with 195s shrunk considerably by knurling alone. If it's worth another step I'll be glad to try it.
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Post by buckstuds on Jan 17, 2016 10:39:57 GMT -5
Yes, same knurled up.002 group was .850. By running thru die, group went to .457 . SST 200 are grouping better when not knurled.All you can do is try it. Seems this barrel likes it.
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Post by Richard on Jan 17, 2016 16:38:41 GMT -5
You know, Hillbill calls that 195 Barnes a little bullet? Just think about it.....We will take a 300 Ultra Mag and with a 180 gr. bullet Elk or Moose hunting and feel very confident, right? So why is a 195 Barnes .40 cal. bullet "a little" bullet? Problem is, when compared to the over 300 gr. bullets we are now shooting sabot less at velocities an ultra mag can't even fathom, I guess the 195 is a little bullet (just a humorous analogy Bill) I suggested a "brake" to Lyman as it would have really tamed that light rifle right down! But if not much bench shooting is planned, it is probably a moot point!
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