224th
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Post by 224th on Dec 11, 2023 20:49:24 GMT -5
So I got a CVA Scout II. I’m shooting Fury 275gr bullets I noticed when I size them the second and third pass feels like it does nothing. They are really hard to push down the first 10” of barrel then they fall or need almost no pressure to seat them. I was afraid the bullet would come off the powder charge so I loaded it tonight and tapped the muzzle on a rubber mat to see if it would move. It came off the powder charge about 4”. When I shot it after pushing the bullet back down it just popped.
Any suggestions would be appreciated I have Pitman 278s so I will try different bullets Jeff if you see this is it safe to shoot?
Thank you 224TH
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Post by booner22 on Dec 11, 2023 23:20:53 GMT -5
So I got a CVA Scout II. I’m shooting Fury 275gr bullets I noticed when I size them the second and third pass feels like it does nothing. They are really hard to push down the first 10” of barrel then they fall or need almost no pressure to seat them. I was afraid the bullet would come off the powder charge so I loaded it tonight and tapped the muzzle on a rubber mat to see if it would move. It came off the powder charge about 4”. When I shot it after pushing the bullet back down it just popped. Any suggestions would be appreciated I have Pitman 278s so I will try different bullets Jeff if you see this is it safe to shoot? Thank you 224TH Your barrel is choked which seems to be more and more common with the newer Cva’s. There are several threads on here with instructions on how to lap the tighter portion of your barrel. It isn’t a bullet issue at all the other option is to shoot with a sabot.
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Post by buckeye68 on Dec 12, 2023 6:07:16 GMT -5
As mentioned above you have a choked barrel.
I personally have shot the Fury 265 bullet with the green tip out of my Scout. I only size them once because it’s a bonded bullet, there is no spring back, the second and third pass isn’t doing anything at all as you have noticed. I also shoot the Pittman 275 grain bullet and I size them 3 times. On the first pass through the die the Fury and the Pittman feel the same, but and the second and third pass you can still feel resistance on the die as the Pittman passes though the die. The Pittman is a cup and core bullet. This year I used the Pittman 275 and the 278 bullet to kill deer. With using 4227 and a large rifle primer the bullet is going 2450 FPS. The 275 have alway produced nice holes in deer even at 210 yards on a perfectly broad side shot with a nice 3” exit hole. Yes, the closer the deer the bigger the hole ,but I’ve always had blood trails or DRT. If you want to save the front shoulders stay of the meat and it isn’t a problem. After shooting the 278 HC this year at a deer at 30 yards with a broad side shot there was no blood trial and only 3 small exit holes. Not impressed at all with no blood trial. Yes, the bullet did its job with internal damage but you’ve got to have a lager exit for the blood to exit the deer if they run out of eye sight. If the SCOUT was over 3,000 FPS I would use the HC,but at 2450 FPS I’m sticking to the 275that produce blood trials and larger exit holes.
To lap a barrel I use clover. Clover is lapping compound is a silicon carbide oil based product that Loctite makes that is used to smooth out steel. You can buy it from 80 grit all the way up to 1200 grit. I personally use 240 smooth grit.
Tools I use: A good heavy duty range rod with a spinning handle Hanks Precision cleaning tube New tight fitting brush I use 3”x3” patches Lapping compound Break cleaner Bore cleaner
My process: I remove the barrel from the action I size a bullet for the loose part of the barrel. I load the bullet from breach end. I use the range rod with no brush to push the bullet in the barrel till it stops, then mark the range rod with a magic marker. I clamp it down with a vice with soft jaws. If no vice, wood working clamps works great also. Install the cleaning tube. Install the brush on your range rod and saturate the patch with lapping compound and wrap it around brush tightly. Insert the ram rod and push in till you get to end of the barrel but do not let the brush exit the barrel. Mark the range rod. Now you have 2 point that you will work the rod back and forth but never go past your marks. After 30 strokes remove the range rod and clean the barrel thoroughly. Use the same bullet and recheck the barrel to see if the tight spot has moved up the barrel. If so, remark your ram rod and repeat the process till you’re happy. The closer you get to the crown, slow down and work that area with easy so you down damage the crown.
I hope this helps.
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