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Post by cornbread on Dec 8, 2023 18:53:05 GMT -5
Is a mack brother's evo 2 stainless steel muzzleloader action a good one any out there better? Just wanted to ask before I decide to build my next smokeless muzzleloader!
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Post by buckeye68 on Dec 8, 2023 19:18:22 GMT -5
I would pass and buy a true muzzleloader action for a couple bucks more. That’s just me tho!
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Post by cornbread on Dec 8, 2023 19:22:01 GMT -5
It is a true muzzleloader action that takes hankins module or asg module!
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Post by buckeye68 on Dec 8, 2023 19:48:41 GMT -5
You are correct, they have a few that are called EVO 2. I didn’t scroll down to the muzzlerloader action. The price is really good for a muzzlerloader action. I personally haven’t seen one so I can’t really say on the fit and finish of the action.
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Post by chromeslayer on Dec 9, 2023 0:28:44 GMT -5
My buddy had one built on a mack bro action... it was nice!
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Post by dannoboone on Dec 9, 2023 12:52:36 GMT -5
Just now went to their site. The action appears to be
pretty darned good, but if it is a dedicated ML action,
WHY do they require FFL for shipping???
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Post by johnnywadd75 on Dec 9, 2023 14:04:52 GMT -5
Read the fine print it says asg modules and nothing about Hankins buddy has one and cut on slot in bolt face had to be open up because hanks modules are a little thicker than ash
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Post by johnnywadd75 on Dec 9, 2023 14:05:41 GMT -5
Really nice action other than that
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Post by smokelessk on Dec 9, 2023 14:38:40 GMT -5
Read the fine print it says asg modules and nothing about Hankins buddy has one and cut on slot in bolt face had to be open up because hanks modules are a little thicker than ash True, Jeff also makes replacement modules for the ASG plug. I have a feeling you could send the action off to Jeff and he could send it back barreled and ready for a stock. |
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Post by smokelessk on Dec 9, 2023 15:54:27 GMT -5
Just now went to their site. The action appears to be pretty darned good, but if it is a dedicated ML action, WHY do they require FFL for shipping??? I would say it is a dedicated muzzleloader bolt, not a dedicated muzzleloader action. The action would be certainly usable for a centerfire rifle platform by simply inserting the proper bolt, hence why a 4473 is required. |
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Post by Ice on Dec 9, 2023 16:24:51 GMT -5
I have a Mack Brother’s bolt in a Rem 40X action. Sweet setup.
Unless I was in an immediate need, I would wait till the EVO II single shot was instock considering they are the same price.
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Post by rackfreak210 on Dec 10, 2023 17:27:20 GMT -5
Huge downside is it doesn't have a full rail. I would buy one otherwise.
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Post by afisher on Dec 10, 2023 18:54:00 GMT -5
Why would the module itself matter? If it’s .473 boltface it shouldn’t matter. The headspace is set off the breech plug. Pierce makes a dedicated action too and they work for either builder’s module.
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Post by jeepeater on Dec 10, 2023 19:34:22 GMT -5
Why would the module itself matter? If it’s .473 boltface it shouldn’t matter. The headspace is set off the breech plug. Pierce makes a dedicated action too and they work for either builder’s module. The headspace dimension can be spot on, but the rim thickness or diameter of the body of the module being larger could stop it from sliding into the fly cut. I don’t know which it is, as I haven’t built on a Macbros. |
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Post by smokelessk on Dec 10, 2023 21:24:14 GMT -5
Huge downside is it doesn't have a full rail. I would buy one otherwise. I don't see that being such a big deal. I do agree a 1 piece rail is more desirable than the 2 piece. However, adding my own rail and bedding it the way I want it done suits me just fine. Then if needed I can use a 0 MOA rail or 20 MOA rail depending on what is best for the application. My 700 long action muzzleloader build has a steel 20 MOA Nightforce bedded on top of it. Never have a concern about the rail whatsoever. If I need to change it for whatever reason, apply a little heat and gently tap on it and it'll come off no problem. |
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Post by smokelessk on Dec 10, 2023 21:33:16 GMT -5
You are correct, they have a few that are called EVO 2. I didn’t scroll down to the muzzlerloader action. The price is really good for a muzzlerloader action. I personally haven’t seen one so I can’t really say on the fit and finish of the action. It looks pretty appealing to me. If I were in the market for building another one. I would be willing to bet this "model 700" action would not need the bolt handle removed and the timing corrected. The bolt face is fly cut already. And it's a stainless action. Add a trigger and a barrel and you're really getting somewhere with a new build. Roughly, the barreled action and a reasonable trigger you could have all set up for about $2k. Add a solid stock, and glass on top and the whole thing could be done for less than $3k. Which isn't a whole lot more than what I have in my Remington 700 build, but it would have a little nicer action than my actual Remington action. I like the idea myself, just I'm not in the market for building one right now. |
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Post by Hank on Dec 11, 2023 11:07:35 GMT -5
Read the fine print it says asg modules and nothing about Hankins buddy has one and cut on slot in bolt face had to be open up because hanks modules are a little thicker than ash If that is the case and their bolt only works with ASG modules, they are missing out on a lot of sales and it is very dumb on thier part to mabufacture an action that won't work with both. My modules are machined to mimick a 308 case, so standardization for Mac Bro's should be easy. Buy a Mesa Precision or a Defiance Outcast action and don't look back. |
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Post by mitchlla on Dec 11, 2023 13:39:28 GMT -5
According to Garrett Caldwell of Mack Bros the bolt face will work with either module system.
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Post by Hank on Dec 12, 2023 20:10:10 GMT -5
According to Garrett Caldwell of Mack Bros the bolt face will work with either module system. That is good to hear. I kinda thought it would as both modules should have the same head design. |
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Post by Ice on Dec 21, 2023 15:52:43 GMT -5
Just got an email that Midwest gun works has 700 SA in stock. The stainless, single shot is steeper than I’d hoped, but there will not be any issues with a conversion.
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