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Post by scotts94z28 on Sept 4, 2023 13:30:49 GMT -5
Looking for advice on building a youth smokeless muzzleloader. Would like something with a shorter length of pull (12.5”) as well as a light recoiling load. Would love to do something like a scout conversion but not sure if anyone makes a shorter length of pull butt stock for them. Also concerned about what plug to use that won’t leave too large of an area for powder so the bullet falls in on a reduced load. Thinking something like a 200 grain sst or fury in a sabot but unsure on powder type and amount. Anyone done something similar or have any ideas?
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Post by YankeeReb on Sept 4, 2023 13:50:00 GMT -5
With the cva scout you could buy the youth size butt stock. I think you could use the youth size from any caliber scout. I would go with hanks asg type longer plug that would take up most of the space in the chamber. I would prefer hanks modules but you could use the direct ignition. 40 gr of a5744 would get you around 2300fps with a 200 gr bullet in a harvester smooth blue sabot with mild recoil. 42gr would be 2400fps.
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Post by YankeeReb on Sept 4, 2023 15:36:29 GMT -5
I should mention that both loads were with a loose .453+ bore 209 ignition and same hole groups with es of practically nothing.
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Post by booner22 on Sept 5, 2023 21:40:32 GMT -5
Looking for advice on building a youth smokeless muzzleloader. Would like something with a shorter length of pull (12.5”) as well as a light recoiling load. Would love to do something like a scout conversion but not sure if anyone makes a shorter length of pull butt stock for them. Also concerned about what plug to use that won’t leave too large of an area for powder so the bullet falls in on a reduced load. Thinking something like a 200 grain sst or fury in a sabot but unsure on powder type and amount. Anyone done something similar or have any ideas? My kids as young as 4 have shot my Cva scout and the original savage mL2 with full size stock without issue. I don’t think unless your kid is really small you will need a different stock. I have a asg plug in my scout and have shot as low as 20 grains of Imr 4227 and a lot of low grain loads of n110 in the 45. In the 50 I have shot powders as low as 15 grains of 4756. I load reduced loads for target practice and bump the charge and bullet we when hunting kids don’t notice when shooting at an animal.
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Post by lbahunter on Sept 11, 2023 22:04:10 GMT -5
I went the opposite direction as everyone else when I had my conversion done. My black blue Scout is set up for the lighter sabot loads. It has the longer DI plug from Hankins. It takes most of the 45-70 chamber out. I have a very small powder chamber. I wanted to shoot the faster powders like N110. I shoot bullets mainly from 180gr to 225gr. I shoot 30 to 38 gr. of N110 with a 180 to 225 gr. bullets in a HLB sabot.
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Post by scotts94z28 on Sept 12, 2023 12:09:58 GMT -5
I went the opposite direction as everyone else when I had my conversion done. My black blue Scout is set up for the lighter sabot loads. It has the longer DI plug from Hankins. It takes most of the 45-70 chamber out. I have a very small powder chamber. I wanted to shoot the faster powders like N110. I shoot bullets mainly from 180gr to 225gr. I shoot 30 to 38 gr. of N110 with a 180 to 225 gr. bullets in a HLB sabot. I think that load is exactly where I'm at. 30 grains of N110 and I'll start with 200 Gr SST and 225 Fury that I have on hand. Just need a short LOP stock and it'll be set.
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Post by lbahunter on Sept 21, 2023 9:13:51 GMT -5
I've never used this load, I found it in the traces. Use at your own risk.... Another possibility might be 16grs of Red Dot with a 200gr SST in a HLB sabot.
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Post by smokepolehall on Oct 2, 2023 20:19:11 GMT -5
As for loads using the sabot45/40 n 200 XTP or SST or SW. I have used 17.0 - 18.0 of Blue dot, 31 of VV110, 31 4759.My Handi-rifle has a 20" barrel & est .fps is 1700-1900 area.At 73 these all do the job on tick toters.
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