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Post by Yankee Bill on Jan 8, 2016 17:29:53 GMT -5
I just found an old stash of these (blue tip) that I bought years ago to use in my .50 cal. Savage, but never used them as I decided to go with 275 BE's instead at the time.
Have any of you Guys used these Sabotless for deer, and if so how did they perform for you? IIRC they are supposed to be less frangible than SST's & standard Shock Waves at shorter ranges.
Appreciate any input you may have to offer.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2016 19:55:18 GMT -5
Heard a lot over the years about the difference between the Hornady 250gn bullets....Blue tips, yellow tips, old style red tips, new style red flex tips, FTX's...Lots of ideas floating around on web. Any how, one night I cut one of each with my bandsaw to see if there is a noticible difference....Bottom line is that they all had the same jacket thickness. Only difference were the tips when they changed to the flex tip. The flex tip SST's and the FTX's are identical just labeled different. Don't know what a bonded bullet is supposed to look like...All are killers
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Post by hillbill on Jan 8, 2016 20:26:23 GMT -5
yes I shot them back in my 50 days and they are definitely a better deer bullet than the non bonded, the only difference is the core is bonded to the jacket. they don't frag nearly as bad at smokeless speeds.
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Post by hunter on Jan 8, 2016 21:11:27 GMT -5
I shot 2 does with them with 62 gr of h4198 in my 45 at 60 yds and 40 yds.
Both deer went less than 50' and both were pass thru's
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Post by Yankee Bill on Jan 8, 2016 21:55:04 GMT -5
yes I shot them back in my 50 days and they are definitely a better deer bullet than the non bonded, the only difference is the core is bonded to the jacket. they don't frag nearly as bad at smokeless speeds. Thanks Bill. Yeah, I remember reading that they were much improved over the original SST's particularly, which as you mentioned were bad for fragmenting in our guns, especially at the shorter ranges I hunt.
Appreciate the input.
YB
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Post by Yankee Bill on Jan 8, 2016 22:02:11 GMT -5
I shot 2 does with them with 62 gr of h4198 in my 45 at 60 yds and 40 yds. Both deer went less than 50' and both were pass thru's Appreciate the info Hunter. I have a couple of other questions if you don't mind:
1. Were these Rib shots or did you hit any heavy bone?
2. Do you know roughly what the MV of that load might be?
3. Did you use a wad?
Thanks again,
YB
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Post by itneverends22 on Jan 8, 2016 22:32:15 GMT -5
Y.B. I shot them in my knight as well as the sst's, I guess they are all made by hornaday, all the deer i shot, longest being about 152 yds, shortest 10yds all pass thrus , deer dropped in tracks, with sst, and shockwave, shots were in ribs.. 100gr by volume bh209..
have not shot them in sml encore yet..
hope this helps..
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Post by Yankee Bill on Jan 8, 2016 22:53:55 GMT -5
Thanks Charlie. Any idea how fast that load was running?
YB
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2016 8:01:43 GMT -5
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Post by itneverends22 on Jan 9, 2016 9:04:09 GMT -5
Thanks Charlie. Any idea how fast that load was running? YB YB, no, I don't for know for sure, guessing any where from 1900-2000, Charlie.. |
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Post by Yankee Bill on Jan 9, 2016 11:01:36 GMT -5
Thanks scat, appreciate the info.
YB
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Post by Yankee Bill on Jan 9, 2016 11:02:56 GMT -5
Thanks Charlie. Any idea how fast that load was running? YB YB, no, I don't for know for sure, guessing any where from 1900-2000, Charlie.. Thanks Charlie.
YB
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Post by hunter on Jan 9, 2016 20:06:05 GMT -5
Yankee bill
I never chronied the load but think in the 24-2500 fps range.
One shot was ribs only and other was in shoulder and out ribs.
I use a felt wad when shooting the 45 sabotless
I forgot about an 8 point a couple years earlier 50 cal with sabots, high shoulder in and outaround 75 yds.
This load was probably 2300ish fps. This dear dropped in its tracks but took a couple minutes to die
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Post by Yankee Bill on Jan 9, 2016 21:03:31 GMT -5
Thanks hunter. On those shoulder shots, would you consider the amount of meat damaged to be average, or, more extensive as we've seen with some of the more frangible bullets?
Thanks again for the info.
YB
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Post by hunter on Jan 10, 2016 5:51:06 GMT -5
I would say average, it was nothing compared to some of the carnage I have seen photos of from the parkers at 3000 fps.
45 in and less than an inch out. I edited the post to read 24-2500 fps
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Post by Yankee Bill on Jan 10, 2016 15:44:18 GMT -5
I would say average, it was nothing compared to some of the carnage I have seen photos of from the parkers at 3000 fps. 45 in and less than an inch out. I edited the post to read 24-2500 fps Thanks hunter. I'm hoping I'll get lucky and they'll fit my Apex bbl. without sizing, we'll see. YB
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