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Post by speedrackin on Jan 7, 2016 9:35:09 GMT -5
I agree Ive always used basic weaver style bases , usually i use millet rings ....but i think its time to definitely upgrade . In that department .Cant wait to go to the spring shoot just for the learning experience .
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Post by elkman1310 on Jan 7, 2016 9:57:45 GMT -5
I did a review of the new Burris 3x15x50 Veracity. I bought two. Both have been on 45cal M/L'S Close to 200 rounds through both. The optics are excellent even in low light. The FFP is nice and it doesn't clutter the field of view up to much. I don't like a bunch of lines.
The target knobs are typical low type with caps. The band you turn to set the turret back to zero works but it could be better. The side focus on the first scope is very snug and really requires very little adjustment when changing yardages. 10 power and below requires very little adjustment. The tracking tests I have done have checked out really well.
The target knobs are a little low and the clicks are not as positive as say a Leupold target scope but when you turn them they do want you tell them to do and they do return to zero. I guess there is always some compromise manufactures have to make. Burris has a very good warranty so its really a scope worth considering. Lowest price I have seen is $570.00 plus S/H most are at $650.00
Hanks right buy the best you can afford the first time around. I tried Bushnell Legend Ultra Hd for a while 4.5x14x44 great optics but every one failed the side focus would not hold up. To the scopes credit they always held point of aim. But if you can see through the scope what good is it. Burris, Vortex , Nikon and Weaver are all in the same price ranges. I have a few guy's I built M/L'S for using the new 3x18x50 Leupold VX6 with Illumination that's getting pretty pricey but they have deep pockets so it doesn't matter to them. Other customers can't go that route.
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Post by shane on Jan 7, 2016 11:34:49 GMT -5
One i forgot about is Sightron. Good reviews. I know Savage Shooter personally And he has used them for years on his SMLs.
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Post by bestill458 on Jan 7, 2016 12:58:42 GMT -5
Any pricing out for new nightforce shv 4-14x50
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Post by schunter on Jan 7, 2016 13:24:27 GMT -5
I agree Ive always used basic weaver style bases , usually i use millet rings ....but i think its time to definitely upgrade . In that department .Cant wait to go to the spring shoot just for the learning experience . At the last shoot we compared a few different scopes at last light looking at a calendar at 200 yards. It was a great test and something I would like to do again with a few more brands. Spend as much money as you can stand on glass because ole big boy likes to show up at first light or last light.
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Post by rlp10ml on Jan 7, 2016 13:26:52 GMT -5
Any pricing out for new nightforce shv 4-14x50 I've seen $1250.00 suggested price.Also,it is only available with lumination for the reticle........
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2016 13:27:29 GMT -5
I agree Ive always used basic weaver style bases , usually i use millet rings ....but i think its time to definitely upgrade . In that department .Cant wait to go to the spring shoot just for the learning experience . At the last shoot we compared a few different scopes at last light looking at a calendar at 200 yards. It was a great test and something I would like to do again with a few more brands. Spend as much money as you can stand on glass because ole big boy likes to show up at first light or last light. What were your findings on the scopes you tested??
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Post by schunter on Jan 7, 2016 13:31:54 GMT -5
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Post by schunter on Jan 7, 2016 13:40:45 GMT -5
At the last shoot we compared a few different scopes at last light looking at a calendar at 200 yards. It was a great test and something I would like to do again with a few more brands. Spend as much money as you can stand on glass because ole big boy likes to show up at first light or last light. What were your findings on the scopes you tested?? This is only my opinion and others might not agree.
Scopes tested that I remember and ranked the way my eyes saw it for clarity and brightness: I will say that the Leupold was very close to the Nightforce.
Nightforce NXS Nightforce ATACR Leupold VX 6 Zeiss Conquest Vortex Viper PST
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Post by shane on Jan 7, 2016 14:48:05 GMT -5
I was told the Newer NightForce SVH is the same glass but less Internal adjustment Capability. Would love to have one but why Dont they manufacture a smaller Objective? The avg human pupil can only dilate to 7-8 mm in a young man. So a exit pupil great than that Is really Unusable. I see no need for an Objective Greater than 44-50mm. JMO
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Post by Squeeze on Jan 7, 2016 18:35:07 GMT -5
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Post by speedrackin on Jan 8, 2016 6:27:02 GMT -5
Any one ever try or use a millet scope ?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2016 8:53:30 GMT -5
What were your findings on the scopes you tested?? This is only my opinion and others might not agree.
Scopes tested that I remember and ranked the way my eyes saw it for clarity and brightness: I will say that the Leupold was very close to the Nightforce.
Nightforce NXS Nightforce ATACR Leupold VX 6 Zeiss Conquest Vortex Viper PST
At last light the guy with the Hensoldt let us look through it....It beat ALL of them....Who knows how much that scope cost...?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2016 9:06:05 GMT -5
This is only my opinion and others might not agree.
Scopes tested that I remember and ranked the way my eyes saw it for clarity and brightness: I will say that the Leupold was very close to the Nightforce.
Nightforce NXS Nightforce ATACR Leupold VX 6 Zeiss Conquest Vortex Viper PST
At last light the guy with the Hensoldt let us look through it....It beat ALL of them....Who knows how much that scope cost...? Those are serious high dollar units
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Post by speedrackin on Jan 8, 2016 9:54:22 GMT -5
Im leaning on a Nightforce although the Leopold .... is in the mix i pretty positive on 30mm tube and 50 and yep them big boys always wait till last available light.
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Post by jon on Jan 8, 2016 15:55:59 GMT -5
Keep the info coming I've got so much to learn about scopes I feel like I'm clueless. The other thing is I'm poor. I also can't hunt so low light is not something I have to contend with?
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Post by jims on Jan 8, 2016 17:06:24 GMT -5
One can pay a great deal more to get a scope that can handle the last 5 minutes of light.
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Post by keith on Jan 13, 2016 8:21:27 GMT -5
Vortex does have a great warranty which is great cause you will probably need it. +1 Vortex does make optics with good glass and accurate adjustments but you will likely use their warranty. If all you do is mount them, shoot a few rounds, and send them down the road you may not experience it but if you really use then you will. I just got back from the Mammoth Sniper Challenge and of the 43 teams in the Extreme Tough Man division I didn't see a lot of Vortex. Lots of Leupold, Bushnell, and Nightforce with a fistful of S&B. My recommendation is figure out what you really want and save a little more money instead of buying what you can snag right now and wishing you had something different. If you are stuck on Vortex them wait until after SHOT since they have some non-cataloged items coming out and hopefully it is a badly needed update to the PST line.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2016 12:34:45 GMT -5
I have a couple of these that are serving me well. They have BDC and exposed elevation turret. For a hot rod ML, the BDC can be used for quick hold over shots and the turret for longer shots or when there is more time to prep for the shot. I am a hunter so I am more concerned with killing deer. www.amazon.com/Vortex-Optics-Viper-Range-4-16x50/dp/B004MUAXHY
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Post by fishhawk on Jan 13, 2016 23:45:44 GMT -5
My vote for a great scope for a great price is also the Weaver Super Slam from Natchez. Only strike against then is lack of dial up for very long range shooting if you want to adjust for yardage.
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