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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2016 8:56:36 GMT -5
I pulled up on a shooter buck just before dark yesterday and sav-pac never fired , got a ting noise but no fire. Put in another primer and walked home. When I went to empty the gun it did it again. So I dry fired it and it worked the next 3 times. I should be hunting right now but after seeing 4 shooter bucks yesterday afternoon and not getting a shot off I'm kind of dreading getting the gun out this morning. We got a couple inches of snow with a layer of ice underneath so it is pretty tough getting up on a good one. I guess I will go try a couple more primers and see what I got going on this morning. Any ideas?
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Post by beans on Jan 3, 2016 9:12:15 GMT -5
Could be many things. Did the primers go off? If not, it is obviously a firing pin/mechanical problem.
If they did go off:
Was the bullet confirmed to be seated tightly on the charge?
Did your barrel take on any moisture while in the woods?
Did you inspect every thing when you unloaded the gun? Powder look OK?
You should give some more info. I assume this is a 45 barrel but do not know if you are using full caliber bullets or sabots. Loading technique, bullet/sabot/fitting tightly in barrel, etc, etc.
Like I said, there are a ton of variables that can lead to a problem.
ONE THING THAT IS IMPORTANT: When you have a misfire with any muzzle loader, especially if the primer DID go bang, you need to re-seat the bullet on the charge. It is likely that the bullet has moved up the barrel somewhat. It has been discussed before that firing a SML where there is now airspace MIGHT cause a dangerous situation. Maybe/maybe not. Re-seating the bullet eliminates that chance. I would wait a minute before doing this JUST IN CASE there is a burning ember.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2016 9:32:16 GMT -5
The primers never fired . I never looked at them cause I lost both in the snow. After I dry fired it has worked normal. It almost seemed like it wasn't cocked , the noise I got when I pulled the trigger was more of a spring noise or release.
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Post by 12ptdroptine on Jan 3, 2016 9:41:38 GMT -5
Accurrigger? I have rad of som Accutrigfer issue' that it wont fire if not pulled straight back. This happened to me once this year. Shocked me but from readinf I suspected the problem ..re-cocked it and ir fired properly
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2016 9:48:29 GMT -5
Yes it's a accutrigger . I did it twice in a row , but I would rather it was me than the gun. Thanks to both of you for the replys. I'm having trouble typing this morning so may I was having trouble pulling the trigger yesterday!  |
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Post by jims on Jan 3, 2016 10:32:06 GMT -5
I had it once where the bolt was ever so slightly uplifted and it would not fire until I noticed it and put the bolt down as it should be. As I recall however I do not recall a trigger spring sound but it was quite awhile ago. I have also had the issue with the trigger not pulled straight back but to the side and no fire, more with a gloved hand as I remember.
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Post by Kyle on Jan 3, 2016 13:01:51 GMT -5
I hunted in Canada in 2004 for whitetail. On my checklist of things to do from the guide was to disassemble the bolt, clean and degrease it thoroughly and reassemble. Debris can work its way into a bolt and moisture can freeze. Both could contribute to a no fire/ misfire.
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Post by hillbill on Jan 3, 2016 13:16:09 GMT -5
The Savage ML II is known for this but most of the time its because the bolt was not closed all the way, I have seen guns that some material had to be relieved at the bottom of the notch in the stock so it would close completely, been there and done that myself. is it a Tupperware stock? If so it could be that over time the action has settled in the stock recess causing the closing issue..
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2016 16:12:01 GMT -5
I hadn't cleaned it since switching the barrel before Thanksgiving ,not so bad time wise but alot of shots sighting in and getting used to .45 over .50. So today I took my time and cleaned it. I didn't pull the bolt apart as I've never done it or seen it done. After 8 or 9 years probably due. It is a tupperware stock but I can see no signs of settling or the bolt rubbing. After dry firing I haven't been able to repeat the problem. Right now I have to wonder if you're right about freezing up ,it is working now but not been outside. I think the bolt was closed on account I was using the second stage on the safety so brush didn't raise the bolt. I guess if I'm careful with the accutrigger and it happens again I'll figure out how to take the bolt apart,and go to work on the tupperware stock with the dremmel tool. I know the stock should be changed but it has always shot pretty well. Thanks for all the help , it gives me a place to start if it happens again.
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Post by jims on Jan 3, 2016 17:16:14 GMT -5
I think rossman once had some photos on how to disassemble etc. the Savage bolt. Certainly google would.
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Post by gar on Jan 3, 2016 18:08:32 GMT -5
I am betting it is the accutrigger. Pull, the set trigger all the way straight back and then the main trigger, and should be good to go as long as primers and powder are good.
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Post by doc12 on Jan 3, 2016 18:52:19 GMT -5
I have a Savage 220 slug gun and had the same thing happen on a cold NY morning last year. I was wearing heavy gloves and when I pulled the trigger it made a similar noise. Recocked the bolt and it fired. I figured out that I had not pulled the middle part of the trigger back and only had pulled on the outside edge causing the misfire. Not sure if this makes sense but sounds like it was the accutrigger
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