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Post by angus on Feb 20, 2021 15:38:13 GMT -5
Has anyone used Reloader 10x in there smokeless muzzleloader?
Powder is hard to find and I’m looking for some information on alternatives for 4198. Thank any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Post by rusty52 on Feb 20, 2021 16:29:35 GMT -5
Angus, welcome to the board. I don't use much 4198, but I have used a bit of Benchmark and 10x powder with 300 grain aeromax bullets. I shoot my best groups with Benchmark; 10x also gives very good accuracy. My rifle was built by Jeff Hankins, and has a heavy Brux barrel with a 5" , 1.25 inch shank. Loads I shoot would probably not be recommended for a break action or barrel nut gun. If you could give more info about your rifle, I could tell you my loads, they are safe in my gun, but may not be in yours.
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Post by angus on Feb 20, 2021 16:53:11 GMT -5
Encore and CVA Scout break actions 45cal, I have a plethora of bullets from 200gn to 300gn.
My plan is to upgrade to a 700 45cal custom with in a year. All for hunting white tails in WI.
Thanks
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Post by Richard on Feb 20, 2021 21:52:32 GMT -5
If Elkman will chime in, I think he is a big fan of 10X. One of the few powders I have not tried.
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Post by elkman1310 on Feb 20, 2021 21:56:38 GMT -5
Hello I use 10x all the time in my muzzleloaders but they are bolt action rifles with heavy enough barrels to safely shoot the loads I use. I don't think 10x is well suited for a break action rifle it is quite a bit slower in burn rate the IMR 4198. probably IMR 4198 or H4198 or the two powders you should stick with. Right now they are hard to find but in time there will be back on some dealers shelfs.
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Post by angus on Feb 23, 2021 19:54:20 GMT -5
Found some IMR 4227 the other day. I have seen some information about it on here.
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Post by dennis on Feb 24, 2021 7:15:45 GMT -5
Found some IMR 4227 the other day. I have seen some information about it on here. I wouldn't go past 60gr of 4227 with a break action. 53gr with a 275gr bullet gave me 2475 with a 25" bbl. |
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Post by buckeye68 on Feb 24, 2021 13:27:25 GMT -5
Found some IMR 4227 the other day. I have seen some information about it on here. I wouldn't go past 60gr of 4227 with a break action. 53gr with a 475gr bullet gave me 2475 with a 25" bbl. I believe he meant 275 grain bullet not 475 |
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Post by dennis on Feb 24, 2021 13:30:24 GMT -5
I wouldn't go past 60gr of 4227 with a break action. 53gr with a 475gr bullet gave me 2475 with a 25" bbl. I believe he meant 275 grain bullet not 475 UH YUP |
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Post by Richard on Feb 24, 2021 13:45:32 GMT -5
I shot 69.5 grains yesterday with a 250 XTP and 3105 fps. Of course that is in a very heavy barrel CF bolt gun. I do shoot the same load with 300 grain bullets also at 100 fps less velocity. As stated above, this load is not for those skinny barrel break action rifles. It is a fast powder along with N-110, 4759 and 5744.
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Post by angus on Feb 24, 2021 14:43:43 GMT -5
Thanks, for the input. I was going to start low like 45-48 grains, check speed with chrono and check groups. I don’t need a powerhouse load, I would like MOA at 3-400yds.
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Post by dannoboone on Feb 25, 2021 10:38:54 GMT -5
If I had 10x, I would try a duplex using N110. My go to load is
a duplex of N110 under IMR3031 which is very close in burn rate
to 10x. The load works very well with 275gr bullets.
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Post by booner22 on Feb 25, 2021 18:55:47 GMT -5
Found some IMR 4227 the other day. I have seen some information about it on here. I wouldn't go past 60gr of 4227 with a break action. 53gr with a 275gr bullet gave me 2475 with a 25" bbl. Any idea how low I could go with a 250gr bullet I picked up several pounds of 4227 and am looking for a youth load. Don’t have much 4759 left. Figured it would be better than 4198 or benchmark for a light load. |
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Post by dennis on Feb 25, 2021 20:12:06 GMT -5
I would say about 45gr and probably a wool wad should be ok and not too bad on the recoil end. It won't be a barn burner but should be good to 150-200yds.
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Post by angus on Mar 8, 2021 21:46:54 GMT -5
Found some A5744 this weekend, hope to start testing soon.
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Post by elkman1310 on Mar 9, 2021 9:25:22 GMT -5
10X is 8 grains faster than IMR 3031 88grs of 10X to 96grs of IMR 3031 no duplex needed with either powder. IMR 3031 lost the most velocity in cold weather of any powder I have tested. That said it was accurate it seems to burn fairly clean and it produces a little higher velocity in warm weather. IMR 3031 would be better suited for a 325gr bullet than a 300gr bullet;
The powder charges I mention should not be used in any break action or barrel nut gun and should not be duplex with that amount of powder be safe.
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Post by angus on Mar 11, 2021 14:22:39 GMT -5
In one of Hanks videos he states that you can use 45-70 load data. That being said does anyone use the published load data?
I’m using a 45-70 encore conversion from Hank. Thanks
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