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Post by keninva on Aug 15, 2020 19:01:15 GMT -5
I need some information on which 275 grain .452 SML Bullets people are using when practicing. I full length size all of my bullets. I am looking for something to shoot that doesn’t cost $2.00 per shot. I shoot Pittman 275grain .452 hard core bullets when hunting. Thanks Ken
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Post by outdoors81 on Aug 15, 2020 19:18:18 GMT -5
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Post by jimmykip on Aug 15, 2020 19:18:46 GMT -5
Xtps
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Post by buckeye68 on Aug 15, 2020 23:45:16 GMT -5
Can’t get any cheaper than XTP’s |
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Post by jimmykip on Aug 16, 2020 6:19:35 GMT -5
I need some information on which 275 grain .452 SML Bullets people are using when practicing. I full length size all of my bullets. I am looking for something to shoot that doesn’t cost $2.00 per shot. I shoot Pittman 275grain .452 bonded bullets when hunting. Thanks Ken And the 300 xtps are rumored to be good deer killers too. Long range accuracy might be questionable. Where u at in VA? |
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Post by keninva on Aug 16, 2020 6:25:58 GMT -5
I live in Franklin County
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Post by buckdoehunter on Aug 16, 2020 8:05:53 GMT -5
Lots of good bullets out there to shoot, I've shot all of these out of my smokeless muzzleloaders (also a few not pictured), all have shot good, some great. There is a mix of .451-.458 bullets in the pic, 195 grains up to 325 grains, a few jacketed lead, the rest all copper. What do you mean by 'full length size'? Are you Full Forming or Smooth Form sizing your bullets? You most likely will need a Full Form die for the .458's. I currently shoot 250 grain and 300 grain Hornady XTPs for practice but there are others that would work good too.  ***edited*** I forgot to mention the two on the left are .40 cal and the sabots are behind the bullets |
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Post by keninva on Aug 16, 2020 8:55:04 GMT -5
Full Forming
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Post by Richard on Aug 17, 2020 17:39:36 GMT -5
Pittman does not bond any bullets!
He makes a "hard core' but that is .452" and NOT bonded.
You say full forming? Don't know of many ,458" 275 gr. Bullets? Fury might make them or could make them.
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Post by keninva on Aug 17, 2020 18:01:01 GMT -5
Thanks for the information. I corrected my original post to say hard core.
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Post by BigMoney on Aug 18, 2020 7:49:21 GMT -5
I need some information on which 275 grain .452 SML Bullets people are using when practicing. I full length size all of my bullets. I am looking for something to shoot that doesn’t cost $2.00 per shot. I shoot Pittman 275grain .452 hard core bullets when hunting. Thanks Ken I may be missing something, but I don't understand the rationale for "practicing" with a hunting rifle with something other than the "ammo" that you are going to hunt with. I'm new here, but I am trying to understand the value of shooting something that is going to perform radically different than your hunting bullet. What can be learned shooting XTPs that will help you when the buck of a lifetime is standing at 336 yards and you have a Pittman in the pipe? |
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Post by jimmykip on Aug 18, 2020 9:29:26 GMT -5
I need some information on which 275 grain .452 SML Bullets people are using when practicing. I full length size all of my bullets. I am looking for something to shoot that doesn’t cost $2.00 per shot. I shoot Pittman 275grain .452 hard core bullets when hunting. Thanks Ken I may be missing something, but I don't understand the rationale for "practicing" with a hunting rifle with something other than the "ammo" that you are going to hunt with. I'm new here, but I am trying to understand the value of shooting something that is going to perform radically different than your hunting bullet. What can be learned shooting XTPs that will help you when the buck of a lifetime is standing at 336 yards and you have a Pittman in the pipe? Well, I like to just shoot too. |
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Post by BigMoney on Aug 18, 2020 9:33:57 GMT -5
I may be missing something, but I don't understand the rationale for "practicing" with a hunting rifle with something other than the "ammo" that you are going to hunt with. I'm new here, but I am trying to understand the value of shooting something that is going to perform radically different than your hunting bullet. What can be learned shooting XTPs that will help you when the buck of a lifetime is standing at 336 yards and you have a Pittman in the pipe? Well, I like to just shoot too. I do too, but I think there is a difference between "practicing" and "plinking".  |
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Post by smokelessk on Aug 18, 2020 10:52:26 GMT -5
I need some information on which 275 grain .452 SML Bullets people are using when practicing. I full length size all of my bullets. I am looking for something to shoot that doesn’t cost $2.00 per shot. I shoot Pittman 275grain .452 hard core bullets when hunting. Thanks Ken I may be missing something, but I don't understand the rationale for "practicing" with a hunting rifle with something other than the "ammo" that you are going to hunt with. I'm new here, but I am trying to understand the value of shooting something that is going to perform radically different than your hunting bullet. What can be learned shooting XTPs that will help you when the buck of a lifetime is standing at 336 yards and you have a Pittman in the pipe? A tremendous amount can be learned through practicing with a hunting rifle, even when not using the same bullet you'll hunt with. The more you shoot the rifle the more you become "one with the rifle." That will certainly make a difference on that buck at 336 yards. Switch to a different bullet for hunting? No problem. Correct the zero on your rifle for the new bullet. Then practice some more. This time learning the trajectory at the distances you intend to shoot a game animal. Ex. The confidence in my equipment I gained through shooting "cheap" practice bullets allowed me to place a 300 grain Pittman literally right in the eyeball of a doe at 90 yards. The bullet impacted within a 1/4 inch of where the cross hairs were when the trigger broke. It does help that the Pittman's (at 100 yards) have an impact point less than an inch away from my zero with the XTPs. I still zero with the bullet I'll hunt with. And know my limit on shooting distance for the animal I'm pursuing. Every hunter is responsible for that. Some, I admit, don't take that responsibility as serious as they should. Practice and learn! |
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Post by BigMoney on Aug 18, 2020 13:54:58 GMT -5
I may be missing something, but I don't understand the rationale for "practicing" with a hunting rifle with something other than the "ammo" that you are going to hunt with. I'm new here, but I am trying to understand the value of shooting something that is going to perform radically different than your hunting bullet. What can be learned shooting XTPs that will help you when the buck of a lifetime is standing at 336 yards and you have a Pittman in the pipe? A tremendous amount can be learned through practicing with a hunting rifle, even when not using the same bullet you'll hunt with. The more you shoot the rifle the more you become "one with the rifle." That will certainly make a difference on that buck at 336 yards. Switch to a different bullet for hunting? No problem. Correct the zero on your rifle for the new bullet. Then practice some more. This time learning the trajectory at the distances you intend to shoot a game animal. Ex. The confidence in my equipment I gained through shooting "cheap" practice bullets allowed me to place a 300 grain Pittman literally right in the eyeball of a doe at 90 yards. The bullet impacted within a 1/4 inch of where the cross hairs were when the trigger broke. It does help that the Pittman's (at 100 yards) have an impact point less than an inch away from my zero with the XTPs. I still zero with the bullet I'll hunt with. And know my limit on shooting distance for the animal I'm pursuing. Every hunter is responsible for that. Some, I admit, don't take that responsibility as serious as they should. Practice and learn! |
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Post by bkm on Aug 19, 2020 6:13:31 GMT -5
Trigger time is always helpful imo whether shooting groups or plinking with a 22.
Any time we spend behind the gun can help us improve our skills and teach us discipline.
All of this can pay dividends when that trophy buck shows up.
Most of us get pretty excited when we see big antlers and may not think quite as clearly as we would like to.
If we have become familiar with our firearm our natural instinct takes over and we’re more likely to be able to put the bullet where we want it.
Shoot as much and as often as u can.
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Post by smokelessk on Aug 19, 2020 8:48:05 GMT -5
Can’t get any cheaper than XTP’s XTP's work well for me too. I've shot, also many others have shot, some crazy small groups with them. They're not available in 275 grain though, just 250 and 300. |
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