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Post by damnyankee on Feb 16, 2019 12:39:46 GMT -5
been lookin at 2 different scopes. sightron siii 3.5-10x44,nightforce shv 3-10x42 both with illum. looking for opinions on durability and over all quality. going to be mounted on a 27in. mgm brux encore barrel with nightforce 6 screw rings. Base is epoxied and torqued at 20 in lbs. Base also has 6 screws. Thanx!
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Post by hillbill on Feb 16, 2019 21:03:33 GMT -5
You will be good either way, I would think they are neck and neck quality wise.
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Post by damnyankee on Feb 16, 2019 21:33:45 GMT -5
Thanks Bill, Figured you would chime in.I have read several of your posts about killin scopes.I know these break guns are pretty hard on the glass just tryin to make the best choice.
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Post by elkman1310 on Feb 17, 2019 8:39:51 GMT -5
Both are good scopes I give the nod to Sightron I have quite a few 8x32x56 and also some NF 12x42x56 bench rest scopes. I bought a New Sightron straight 45 power benchrest scope last year and it worked really well for me last year in 1,000 yard competition but toward the end of the season I started getting bigger groups and unexplained fliers so I questioned the scope. I sent it back to Sightron detailing the problem and since it was a new designed scope I thought it might be worth their while to tear it apart and see if their might be a component that was not holding up to a 300 WSM.
They tore the scope down check every thing put it back together and tested on their 1000 G impact meter it held POA perfectly They called me and told me the results and offered to mount the scope on a test rifle and shoot groups with the scope to verify the tracking. I don't know what more they could do for customer support and they are fast in service time. NF on the other hand never wants to tell you that their is a problem with their scopes and they do have tracking problems especially their flag ship competition scope.
The real problem I had with my 300WSM was the barrel it started going away half way through the season I had set the barrel back because it was a good Krieger barrel but you normally only get half the barrel life out of a barrel you set back especially if it was shot out the first time around.
So again either scope will work the fact that its going on a brake action gun is a real concern so I would mount the lightest scope on it that you can the heavier the scope weighs the more G force it will have on the mounts and since your using heavy duty tactical mounts the scope will be eating all of the recoil. You could also look at the new Leupold 4.5x14x50 VX3I long range model with zero stop turrets I just mounted one on a muzzleloader I finished for a customer and it is a nice compact scope and doesn't weight a lot it could work for you.
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Post by doug136 on Feb 17, 2019 17:15:12 GMT -5
glass goes to the Sightron durability Nightforce MAY have the edge.
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Post by joelmoney on Feb 17, 2019 17:28:09 GMT -5
glass goes to the Sightron durability Nightforce MAY have the edge. You say glass is better on Sightron. Clarity? Light gathering? I am fairly familiar with the SHV glass but not very much experience with SIII is the reason I ask.
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Post by doug136 on Feb 17, 2019 17:45:15 GMT -5
This is just my opionion . My buddy and I both have Nightforce SHVs and Nightforce NXS. We also have Sightron SIIIs. We both feel the clarity and light gathering ability goes to the Sightron SIII. Sightron SIIIs glass is considerably better than Sightrons Stac . Japan glass vs Philippine glass.
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Post by schunter on Feb 17, 2019 20:40:09 GMT -5
I compared my Sightron S III 6-24x50 to my Nightforce SHV 4-14x50. Three small bucks came out in the field behind the house at last light the other night so I went and grabbed both out of the safe for a comparison. Did the comparison on the same power. As far as brightness the S III was the winner. Clarity was very even. I could have made a kill shot with either scope but the illuminated reticle in the SHV would have made the shot easier. Still impressed with the Sightron.
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Post by joelmoney on Feb 17, 2019 20:44:31 GMT -5
Thanks guys very useful information.
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Post by damnyankee on Feb 18, 2019 19:07:46 GMT -5
Yep, useful info for sure. My thoughts were that a heavier scope would take the pounding better.I have read other posts stating that nightforce scopes had really strong guts internaly.I'm kinda lookin that direction but I've heard the same for sightron.To me the best warranty is the one I don't have to use. I've also been checkin out the vortex razor hd that Jeff used in his video just not sure about the reticle.
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Post by hillbill on Feb 18, 2019 20:34:09 GMT -5
Now there is a heavy scope, the Razor weighs a ton, great scope though.
keep in mind that on a break action you won't be shooting high horse power loads and if you put a very chunky scope on there it will make the gun very top heavy, just throwing that out there.
the SIII is not all that heavy, don't know about the weight of the SHV, I have mounted and shot behind a couple but that's all I really know about them other than what I read.
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Post by joelmoney on Feb 18, 2019 21:46:09 GMT -5
I did not notice any top heavy feel to my buddies Hunter with an SHV with low 6 screw mounts.
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Post by nippernut on Feb 19, 2019 22:00:45 GMT -5
what looks good thru my eye's might not look the same thru yours, but sightron is pretty clear
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Post by tcas on Mar 1, 2019 20:57:03 GMT -5
my sIII 8x32 is a great scope, similar comments as noted above in regards to glass quality, However, the SHV is a better platform for deer hunting. I say that because I have had issues with the sIII turrets getting loose when my rifle is strapped to my pack or just moving through difficult cover and I find it more difficult to read the markings on the Turrets on the SIII.
I mostly use the SIII on varmint and target shooting.
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Post by doug136 on Mar 2, 2019 20:29:41 GMT -5
my sIII 8x32 is a great scope, similar comments as noted above in regards to glass quality, However, the SHV is a better platform for deer hunting. I say that because I have had issues with the sIII turrets getting loose when my rifle is strapped to my pack or just moving through difficult cover and I find it more difficult to read the markings on the Turrets on the SIII. I mostly use the SIII on varmint and target shooting. I completely agree and have had the same issues with the older S111s. Sightron now makes turrents with white numbers with windage 1 left and 1 right . You can also buy tape to solve this problem. Also the older S111s can be made to have Zero stops. The new S111s have zero stops with turrents with white numbers. The old problems have been solved.
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Post by damnyankee on Mar 3, 2019 10:23:17 GMT -5
Well, pulled the trigger on the siii next stop pittman bullets. Something about those pointy devils at faster than sub gun speeds really trips my trigger! Thanks to all for your advice. Dave.
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