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Post by schunter on Oct 13, 2015 11:58:54 GMT -5
When I unloaded my McRem last night the wool wad was stuck to the bullet like it was glued on. Now this round was loaded after I shot it 5 days ago and it was with BH209.
It started me to thinking that I have heard some people talk about gluing the wad to the bullet. I have heard numerous people make the comment that the wad glued to the bullet affects accuracy in a negative way.
Have you guys experienced this and what are your thought on affecting accuracy.
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Post by hillbill on Oct 13, 2015 17:50:15 GMT -5
Gluing the wad on would be a no no, while most wool wads disintegrate upon firing any residual wad stuck to the back of the bullet could and likely would steer the bullet adversely?? Just thinking out loud here.
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Post by Richard on Oct 13, 2015 19:47:24 GMT -5
Elkman was doing it but only a very small amount. He did not seem to have a problem. He did it so when hunting, he did not need to look for the wad. It was one less thing to remember. You might try contacting him Scott.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2015 19:54:40 GMT -5
Instead of gluing why not melt wax and put it on let it cool wouldn't the wax melt and wad fall off? Just a thought.
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Post by keith on Oct 13, 2015 20:22:19 GMT -5
Gluing the wad on would be a no no, while most wool wads disintegrate upon firing any residual wad stuck to the back of the bullet could and likely would steer the bullet adversely?? Just thinking out loud here. Steve had that problem. We got to talking about it when I shoot with him up in PA back in August.
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Post by schunter on Oct 13, 2015 20:36:35 GMT -5
Do you guys have any idea why it was stuck to the bullet? What I fear is if I had got a shot at another deer I may have missed or worse wounded a deer.
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Post by Kyle on Oct 13, 2015 21:29:25 GMT -5
Do you guys have any idea why it was stuck to the bullet? What I fear is if I had got a shot at another deer I may have missed or worse wounded a deer. Did you clean your lube off good from sizing?
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Post by schunter on Oct 14, 2015 6:45:17 GMT -5
Do you guys have any idea why it was stuck to the bullet? What I fear is if I had got a shot at another deer I may have missed or worse wounded a deer. Did you clean your lube off good from sizing? Yes the bullets had been cleaned.
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Post by bestill458 on Oct 14, 2015 8:01:51 GMT -5
Blackhorn fouling and humidity will start corrosion very quickly. My thoughts on wad sticking is gun was fired creating heat then reloaded into a fouled barrel as gun cooled it draws moisture which the wool wad will wick it up starting low grade corrosion on bottom of copper bullet sticking wad. Im a fan of veggie wads . But a hot gun allowed to cool with blackhorn fouling will draw moisture as cools and immediately start corrosion. Most disagree but in dry low humidity you can get bye with alot with blackhorn. High humidity environment will cause issue. I shoot a clean bore blackhorn load if need follow up shot i add 1 moa and shoot. And after gun is fired i clean it within24 hrs or before next hunt.
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Post by schunter on Oct 14, 2015 13:38:40 GMT -5
Blackhorn fouling and humidity will start corrosion very quickly. My thoughts on wad sticking is gun was fired creating heat then reloaded into a fouled barrel as gun cooled it draws moisture which the wool wad will wick it up starting low grade corrosion on bottom of copper bullet sticking wad. Im a fan of veggie wads . But a hot gun allowed to cool with blackhorn fouling will draw moisture as cools and immediately start corrosion. Most disagree but in dry low humidity you can get bye with alot with blackhorn. High humidity environment will cause issue. I shoot a clean bore blackhorn load if need follow up shot i add 1 moa and shoot. And after gun is fired i clean it within24 hrs or before next hunt.
I agree with your thoughts 100%. The bullet was also very discolored almost black and the black would not come off the bullet. The 5 days after I shot the gun were all rainy and nasty. There was a very small amount of corrosion in the barrel when I cleaned it that night also. It all came out but it was there.
I had the argument on another forum about BH209 fouling causing rust. I know for a fact in high humidity it will cause rust....
Thanks for your comments!
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Post by elkman1310 on Oct 14, 2015 17:10:53 GMT -5
Hi be careful about gluing wool wads onto the base of the bullet. I did that to help a friend out with his M/L I built him. For what ever reason he couldn't get the hang of putting the wad over the end of the muzzle brake and start it down. So I did this for him.
That said you only need one tiny drop of cheap super glue to hold it to the base of the bullet. When I glued them on to tight it did have an effect on accuracy. Its handy when hunting but I don't do it that way when I am shooting groups.
The other thing is if you glue the wad on the base off center you my have a hard time getting it down the barrel. All it takes is some of the wool fibers to get between the bore and the bullet and you with have problems. I saw that first hand with this same guys M/L
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Post by jims on Oct 14, 2015 21:18:30 GMT -5
This months Discovery magazine, November 2015, on page 74 has 20 things one did not know about wool. It talks about wool and how liquid water and water vapor affect it. I think bestill may have it figured out.
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