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Post by joelmoney on Mar 21, 2017 2:39:04 GMT -5
Most everyone seems to be running bolt actions for high power SML. I am wandering what other actions are being used? To me it seems like a lot more steel than needed but that is an outsider looking in. I can see where on a cartridge rifle were a trued action would make a difference. My second question is if using a stock Remington action would affect accuracy when using an ignition system like Jeff's LMRP breach plug and modules? These are a couple things that I just have bouncing around in my little pea brain I was hoping you guys could put to rest.
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Post by Richard on Mar 21, 2017 4:49:27 GMT -5
Bolt squareness (This is my opinion) on one of these muzzle loader don't mean squat! As long as the firing pin hits the primer, basically in the center, the rest of the ignition process proceeds from the breech plug forward! I will say that having the face of the action square will insure that the barrel is pointed in the right direction. This is important for alignment with your scope/base set up.
Locking lugs may give some a feeling of safety but in reality, it is the bushing hole in the breech plug that holds most of the pressure back! I have shot many load as hot in a Rem 700ML action (no lugs) as with a Rem. CF action and don't know of ANYONE who blew their breech plug out the rear? Again, just my opinion!
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Post by markb317 on Mar 21, 2017 10:19:40 GMT -5
The way I see it the action is there to hold the barrel in a straight line the direction you what to shoot and ignite the primer,it also holds the barrel so you can mount it in a stock.
The muzzleloader has removed the variables that come into play with a CF rifle. No brass, no worrying if the bolt is square with the bore and no getting your bullet seating depth just right.
This is why a good setup muzzleloader will shoot just as good or better then most CF rifles out to a reasonable hunting range.
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Post by hillbill on Mar 21, 2017 20:38:21 GMT -5
Agree on both counts..
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Post by Kyle on Mar 21, 2017 20:46:33 GMT -5
Other actions could be used for high power sml than a bolt action. But I doubt any others are as flexible as a bolt action. Stock choices are numerous, all kinds of base and ring options ect. It's important for your scope tube and barrel to be pointing in the same direction, blueprinting the action may not be required for shooing practical ranges. The choice is up to the shooter. A quality, stress free bedding job is important for sure. My first SML that Jeff Hankins built is not blueprinted and shoots very well.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2017 21:28:55 GMT -5
As far as alternate actions are concerned, in my opinion, an oversized break open with a large barrel shank and beefy receiver that locks up really tight and rigid would be the berries. Your scope is mounted directly to the barrel so it acts as one unit.
Or an oversized falling block action like the Ruger #1. Again, the scope is mounted directly to the barrel, eliminating barrel/receiver shift during firing.
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Post by joelmoney on Mar 22, 2017 0:57:57 GMT -5
There is my AW HA moment. Scope bases and stocks that would be a stumbling block other actions have. I am sure there is more for me to learn here but that hit me like a bus. I was thinking falling block but I do like an oversized break open. Thank you Richard, markb317, hillbill, Kyle, Scat. My pea brain is slowly wrapping around this.
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