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Post by deadeyedon89 on Dec 22, 2016 15:05:53 GMT -5
Jeff Has built my 3rd SML now and sent me a pic of her...... It is a TC encore/Brux light contour finished at 26" plus brake. I would like to hear some info from other people that have Break action guns on what loads/velocities/powder/bullet/max loads ect ect combos they are using and with what kind of accuracy i can expect.. Also i am needing a name for her....... I now own the "land cannon" (Complete custom) and "Thumper"(ultimate conversion)... Now this one has been built..... thinking i will call her "Baby Sis" or "Sissy"... you all can help with a name ideas??  |
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Post by ourway77 on Dec 22, 2016 15:37:41 GMT -5
I use Harvester 45/40 blue sabots and 60 grains of IMR-4198 Here one target I found. Some use the Harvester crush rib sabots but my converted 45-70 barrel likes the regular. I have shot bare bullets sized to the bore but I settled on the afore mentioned load Good Luck love the furniture nothing like pretty wood  |
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Post by dennis on Dec 22, 2016 16:03:05 GMT -5
I use Harvester 45/40 blue sabots and 60 grains of IMR-4198 Here one target I found. Some use the Harvester crush rib sabots but my converted 45-70 barrel likes the regular. I have shot bare bullets sized to the bore but I settled on the afore mentioned load Good Luck love the furniture nothing like pretty wood I'm currently using same sabot/bullet combo in my apex with 56gr h4198 at 2430fps does very good on deer. With a break a lot hotter load with heavier bullets easy to do. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2016 16:33:43 GMT -5
looking good
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Post by gchuckie on Dec 22, 2016 20:48:57 GMT -5
I can say in mine I ended up shooting 55 Grains of 4198 and the Pittman 275 accu Max's and that gun loved that combo!
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Post by nyhunter on Dec 22, 2016 21:41:22 GMT -5
Nice looking firearm, best of luck. 55 grains IMR 4198,.060 veggie wad, Accumax 275's will shoot under 1" at 100 yards all day long.  Enjoy !!! |
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Post by claydawg on Dec 22, 2016 22:37:40 GMT -5
I'm shooting 65 grains of imr4198 and 275 Accumax at 2800 fps out of the exact same barrel but mine is 28 inches plus a brake. Accuracy is better in my gun from 62-65 grains and the brake tames the recoil. Best groups are .75 to 1 inch at 100 yds. Both days I've shot this gun in windy conditions. I bet it can be dialed into a cloverleaf with ideal conditions. Awesome barrel and excellent machine work by Mr Hankins........
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2016 22:46:24 GMT -5
Sweetie is what she looks like to me...Very Sweet gun.....
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Post by kai on Dec 23, 2016 14:29:54 GMT -5
Another beautiful gun by Jeff!!!
Can anyone explain why the first (cold shot) is high and slightly to the left.
I took my Encore out yesterday to test some new loads and I got the exact same result.
I was shooting 60 and 61 grains of i3031 in a an Encore/Bergara 44 cal, 22 inch barrel with a brake and a Magneto Speed attached.
Is it common for an Apex to have the first shot so high or is it just a coincidence that my group was the same?
By the way, the velocities were 2,375 FPS with 60 grains and 2,414 FPS with 61 grains using 3031 and 250 grain bullets.
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Post by dylan26ofde on Dec 24, 2016 8:49:45 GMT -5
I have a H&R 45/70 conversion and found that shooting the 270 gr parker match hunters with 55gr of h4198 and a .06 veggie wad shot the best for me.
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Post by sew on Dec 26, 2016 15:40:53 GMT -5
Is the barrel clean for the first shot? Is the difference between a cold, then warmer already fouled barrel or a clean vs fouled barrel?
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Post by kai on Dec 26, 2016 15:51:31 GMT -5
Is the barrel clean for the first shot? Is the difference between a cold, then warmer already fouled barrel or a clean vs fouled barrel? My first shots are from a clean barrel and were shot at 80 degree ambient temperature. Subsequent shots were shot 5 minutes apart to allow the barrel to cool between shots. |
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Post by Joe on Dec 27, 2016 16:02:58 GMT -5
Deadeye, Nice rifle and great shooting. How about naming your rifle "triple play" since it's your 3rd Hankins build? Hank converted a Bergara 45-70 barrel for my Encore. My best groups are running around 2180 fps using Hornady FTX 325gr bullet sized to 0.451 over 54gr of IMR 4198 using Remington large/mag rifle primers. Attached pic is most recent 4 shot 100 yd group. Attachments:
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Post by 12ptdroptine on Dec 27, 2016 16:41:07 GMT -5
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Beautiful gun and some fine trigger work.
About cold bore....puzzles me. I have an Encore Pacnor 25" . I shoot it saboted and clean it between shots with 93% isopropyl alcohol. If I don't shoot it during season I have left it loaded for a year in the safe. Knocked the center out of the bullseye at 100yds every year when I get it back out. And my bolt guns I unload. But when I get them back out the POI. Stays the same also.
I wonder what this is caused by also.
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Post by tarpon007 on Dec 29, 2016 11:56:46 GMT -5
I just had jeff hankins build me the same gun and i just received it a week ago : I bought everything needed with the gun from Jeff including a die to press form my own bare pittman 275 grain bullets to bore size. I am totally a newbie to the SML, and this is my first , so i was a tad worried about bore sizing bullets since i have never done it before nor do i have any help. I discovered instantly that i had saboted 200 grain 40/ 45 cal bullets around and they worked perfectly in the drop barrel i received which got me thinking why i couldn't just use these for ease of use mainly especially when on distant hunt trips. My main concern was burning/blowing up the plastic sabot, and what powder I could or had to use to make it work. This thread is cool because i wasn't sure about accuracy using a saboted round vrs a bare bullet, load , powder, primer. Since i haven't even shot yet i was going to be looking for info on this topic : and here it is. QUESTION FOR SABOT USERS: 1) What interval do you clean your barrel when shooting sabots 2) do you still use a large magnum rifle primer with your IMR4198 3) what kind of grouping are you getting past 100 yards THX |
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Post by nyhunter on Jan 3, 2017 19:03:10 GMT -5
I just had jeff hankins build me the same gun and i just received it a week ago : I bought everything needed with the gun from Jeff including a die to press form my own bare pittman 275 grain bullets to bore size. I am totally a newbie to the SML, and this is my first , so i was a tad worried about bore sizing bullets since i have never done it before nor do i have any help. I discovered instantly that i had saboted 200 grain 40/ 45 cal bullets around and they worked perfectly in the drop barrel i received which got me thinking why i couldn't just use these for ease of use mainly especially when on distant hunt trips. My main concern was burning/blowing up the plastic sabot, and what powder I could or had to use to make it work. This thread is cool because i wasn't sure about accuracy using a saboted round vrs a bare bullet, load , powder, primer. Since i haven't even shot yet i was going to be looking for info on this topic : and here it is. QUESTION FOR SABOT USERS: 1) What interval do you clean your barrel when shooting sabots 2) do you still use a large magnum rifle primer with your IMR4198 3) what kind of grouping are you getting past 100 yards THX 1. How often you clean your gun is a matter of personal preference, there are some members that clean their gun after each use and others not. I am primarily a hunter first, I sight my gun in and once done I will not clean my firearm until the end of the season. 2. Again a matter of personal preference with the primers, I have tried both standard and magnum primers. I decided to stay with magnum to ensure good ignition in frequent inclement hunting situations. 3. I shoot 55 grains IMR 4198,.060 veggie wad and a Accumax 275's will shoot under 1" at 100 yards all day long. I do not use sabots, the Pittman Accumax's will generally have a better BC then the 200 grain saboted bullet you referenced. For hunting purposes I would stick with the Pittman's vs a 200 grain saboted load. 200 yards with Pittman 275 Accumax's  Good luck and welcome to SML's |
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Post by deadeyedon89 on Jan 7, 2017 17:21:33 GMT -5
And once again Jeff has made me another Masterpiece!!!!!!  |
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Post by sa1000 on Jan 7, 2017 17:54:53 GMT -5
Great looking rifle
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Post by mike on Jan 7, 2017 18:36:54 GMT -5
Now that is one crazy good looking camo paint job! What caliber is the rifle chambered in? I'll be curious to learn how she shoots; however, I'm pretty sure I already know what I'll read.
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Post by speedrackin on Jan 7, 2017 18:55:42 GMT -5
very cool without a doubt im sure it shoots as good as it looks ......we need specs!
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