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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2016 9:28:44 GMT -5
So this morning I've been weighing my McRem to see what I'm working with.
Fist, I weighed current set up.
McRem with Vortex Viper HS 4-16x44
Boyds Laminate Thumbhole stock
=11.5lbs
Current set up with factory synthetic stock
=10.4lbs
Current set up no stock
=7.7lbs
Wasn't going to remove scope until after season.
So while I was doing all this I felt the factory stock felt better and realized the Boyds Thumbhole was big and blocky. Maybe my issue is the way my rifle feels verses weight.
Has anyone felt this way that the a rifle feels better even though it weighs slightly heavy with the right stock? The Boyds is just blocky and unconformable to carry. Maybe a better or more comfortable stock to carry is the way to go.
Another question, I understand head spacing a savage however how do you head space a Remington? It doesn't make sense cause you have to get the barrel tight and there doesn't seem to be a way to adjust barrel cause there is only one stopping point.
Thanks for any insight!
Chad
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Post by lakeplainshunter on Dec 10, 2016 10:05:18 GMT -5
PM sent.
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Post by doug136 on Dec 10, 2016 11:28:08 GMT -5
I agree to thick in the hand area . Also seem to wide at the top . But I love the look of Laminate stocks .
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Post by nyhunter on Dec 10, 2016 11:45:48 GMT -5
So this morning I've been weighing my McRem to see what I'm working with. Fist, I weighed current set up. McRem with Vortex Viper HS 4-16x44 Boyds Laminate Thumbhole stock =11.5lbs Current set up with factory synthetic stock =10.4lbs Current set up no stock =7.7lbs Wasn't going to remove scope until after season. So while I was doing all this I felt the factory stock felt better and realized the Boyds Thumbhole was big and blocky. Maybe my issue is the way my rifle feels verses weight. Has anyone felt this way that the a rifle feels better even though it weighs slightly heavy with the right stock? The Boyds is just blocky and unconformable to carry. Maybe a better or more comfortable stock to carry is the way to go. Another question, I understand head spacing a savage however how do you head space a Remington? It doesn't make sense cause you have to get the barrel tight and there doesn't seem to be a way to adjust barrel cause there is only one stopping point. Thanks for any insight! Chad Although I have not built a Remington SML yet I have done several rifles. Head spacing on a rifle is done by taking measurements and machining your barrel correspondingly, using a chamber reamer and finally a go & no-go gauge for proper head spacing. With a SML I would imagine the barrel work would be the same and you would adjust head spacing by the overall depth of the breech-plug and HIS module or 209 primer to your bolt face. |
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Post by dannoboone on Dec 10, 2016 12:25:32 GMT -5
Another question, I understand head spacing a savage however how do you head space a Remington? It doesn't make sense cause you have to get the barrel tight and there doesn't seem to be a way to adjust barrel cause there is only one stopping point. Thanks for any insight! Chad I had a Boyds TH on my 700ml conversion and didn't care for it for the same reasons. It also had too far a reach to the trigger for my hand. It got replaced with a great feeling stock, their ProVarmint. It does NOT help you for weight, however. I believe it was Fishhawk who posted on the other board how to head space for the 700ml by working on the end of the Savage BP, and that worked great for me on two different 700ML's. |
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Post by Richard on Dec 10, 2016 16:47:38 GMT -5
Depending on the plug your using in the 700ML, there could be several ways to adjust the head space. If its the Savage plug, you would check it in your lathe and set the compound to the taper on the end of the plug. Some change that to match the reverse taper on the bolt nose. You begin cutting the taper with the compound and advance the carriage towards the plug. This will allow the bolt to move in closer.
On the ASG plug, you could also do the same thing or, relieve the back side of the shoulder so it screws in further to the barrel If its too loose, then you would need to cut some material off the shoulder of the barrel so the plug becomes closer to the bolt face. Some of this could be "fudged" with a file and a drill press that will hold the plug but ideally, the lathe is the way to go.
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Post by schunter on Dec 11, 2016 17:36:01 GMT -5
When I had a Boyds thumbhole on my McRem it was fine for bench work but after hunting with it for a season I didnt like it for a hunting stock. Switched to the HS stock and felt like a new gun. It carried better and was easyier to handle in a climber or deer stand.
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Post by kbrezlin on Dec 13, 2016 19:49:25 GMT -5
I have 2 CF guns that are both16+ pounds. One is a Kevin Rayhill (stockade) elkstalker that is very comfortable. I love the the thumb hole tactical style and it controls the recoil well. The other is a Russo laminate that he made to fit my hand with the palm swell. I really think the feel has more to do with it than the weight. Both of those stocks were weighted to offset the barrel so the balance was right.
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