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Post by Squeeze on Aug 6, 2015 17:04:31 GMT -5
Im going to start gathering parts for a new build. It may take a while. I figure ill start with an action and scope. Is there any real advantage to going with a custom action for a ML? (I have 2 sav-pac now, but a new better gun is always fun) I have an opportunity on a decent original rem ML just to start with an action, Is a savage target action, or even a Bat, or similar custom action any real advantage for a ML? or am I just as well to start with any used 700 ml I can get a deal on. Im figuring on going as good as I can quality wise, if and where possible. Whats the pros and cons here.
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Post by keith on Aug 6, 2015 17:07:47 GMT -5
I don't think there is a huge advantage. I have both.
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Post by kbrezlin on Aug 6, 2015 17:34:18 GMT -5
Jeff just barreled me a Savage PTA. The one advantage on that one was 3 action screw holes and a solid bottom to hang the massive barrel from. I picked it up for a reasonable price on Long Range Huntings classifieds.
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Post by markb317 on Aug 6, 2015 18:38:43 GMT -5
I like the Savage PTA to build on because they have a solid bottom and small loading port so they are stiff. There are several aftermarket parts available for them also if you search for them.
I think the next ML I build though will probably be build on the new Remington ML action with a steel one piece scope base for some extra stiffness.
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Post by Hank on Aug 6, 2015 18:44:12 GMT -5
Unless that ML action is an almost freebie I would pass on it.. I know some feel that the ml actions are great to build on but using a center fire action nowadays is the way to go.. IMO... No need to buy a custom action unless you just want one,, a Remington SPS will do you just fine or you could start with a Remington Ultimate ML and add a good quality 45 caliber barrel later.
I guess the first thing you need to decide is what ignition system you will use, then get an action that works best for that system...
Will there be an accuracy difference between a custom action and a standard Remington., I will say no... Not when building a ml..
Jeff.
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Post by Squeeze on Aug 6, 2015 19:00:15 GMT -5
this one will be your system. but what I have in mind may take some time to save and piece the parts together. I figure action and scope, and order a barrel (probably Brux) then send the parts off to you. was thinking about making a pure match rifle. probably wont see much woods use, especially how heavy they all end up. even my sav-pacs dont really hunt anymore. my home hunting is usually short range, and I tend to like something lighter to carry around for a day still up in the air on caliber yet. and Id really like an Eliseo tube gun chassis, prob f class. so theres a good chunk out of the bank acct to start.  |
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Post by Hank on Aug 6, 2015 19:11:13 GMT -5
Squeeze... If you're going to use my system it MUST be built on a center fire action with locking lugs.. The Remington action is the best choice for several reasons but I won't go into all that detail at this time....
The ML action will not work, so don't waist your money...
Jeff.
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Post by rojo23 on Aug 6, 2015 19:33:36 GMT -5
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Post by keith on Aug 6, 2015 20:23:44 GMT -5
this one will be your system. but what I have in mind may take some time to save and piece the parts together. I figure action and scope, and order a barrel (probably Brux) then send the parts off to you. was thinking about making a pure match rifle. probably wont see much woods use, especially how heavy they all end up. even my sav-pacs dont really hunt anymore. my home hunting is usually short range, and I tend to like something lighter to carry around for a day still up in the air on caliber yet. and Id really like an Eliseo tube gun chassis, prob f class. so theres a good chunk out of the bank acct to start. That was info that should have been in your first post since it pretty much meant you need a CF action. I have almost bought an Eliseo chassis twice now for rifle builds (Palma guns) but after having shot AI, CADEX, KRG, and RACS I can't warm up to the chassis for anything except hard abuse. They are good for a hard use gun but I don't find them as comfortable as a conventional stock. I'm not the only one that feels this way and I know a lot of guys who shoot them for a living. If you haven't put your hands on a chassis yet then I would before you buy one. Palma is still the one place I would consider it because of the ability to rotate the forearm for your sling and glove. If you had just wanted a lighter hunting gun then a 700ML would have been fine since realistically most people need a 200-300 yards (tops) rifle. That action with a Douglas 5A contour finishes up nicely for that type of thing and is plenty of gun for 99.9% of shooters and fits most everyone's budget. A CF HIS will set you back quite a lot more but I feel better about ramping up performance in an action with lugs even though they are a back up to the primary safety design. |
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Post by Squeeze on Aug 6, 2015 20:45:25 GMT -5
Thanks, the tube gun chassis was kind of a new gravitational pull. I have a pile of whites and knights I hunt with. Im in a smoke only state. the smokeless guns get used for range toys more than anything, and shoot a lot of blackhorn. Im heading more and more toward selling the sav pacs to help fund a new build. I have a lot of problems with stocks. Im right handed, but left predomonat eye. So ive been shooting rifle for 35 years lefty. all my guns are right handed. shotgun I shoot just as well either way. Since the next build wont really be used for hunting, I was headed toward a strictly range rifle. stock is still up in the air I guess. I just finished an AR flattop style varmint rifle, and saw Kash's tube gun build and got like a lid in a candy store wide eyed.
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Post by hillbill on Aug 6, 2015 21:04:25 GMT -5
JMO
I would wait til after season is over and buy a Remington Ultimate for a base gun, I missed a buy on one last weekend for 750.00 with a 3x9 leupold and two boxes of brass.
It would make a great base to build on and you are good to go..
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Post by bakaboy on Aug 7, 2015 13:07:27 GMT -5
Are the Remington ultimate actions considered true muzzleloader actions? My real question is whether you can mail them without an FFL or without using a dealer?
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Post by Hank on Aug 7, 2015 14:19:01 GMT -5
Are the Remington ultimate actions considered true muzzleloader actions? My real question is whether you can mail them without an FFL or without using a dealer? Phil.. The Remington Ultimate actions are FFL required.. Form 4473 must be filled out and a back ground check done on the buyer.. Jeff |
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