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Post by mtj555 on Oct 18, 2016 20:18:53 GMT -5
Many people make custom muzzleloaders and guns for that matter but I truly think Tom Post and his swinglock muzzleloaders are in a league of their own and he is truly without peer when it comes to innovations and custom muzzleloaders. His Action, priming system, sizing dies to name a few. I don't own one because they are out of my price range but if money were no option I would. I had the opportunity to have one built many years ago at a great price but I made a mistake and purchased a bad bull. I had used a buddies before and was ignorant to the world of smokeless muzzleloaders. Hind site is always 20/20.
WTWThunter- just because an invite goes out and nobody shows up doesn't mean anything? I would love to come to a shoot somewhere but unfortunately logistically it will likely never happen because of my job in the Military and kids with sporting events. I barely have time to shoot at local range as it is much less travel. I would be willing to bet that many are in the same boat. It would be fun to attend a shoot but unless at a local range it will likely never happen. And most people don't care to travel to another state just to prove a point.
Richard, how does Hanks rifle appeal to the more accuracy and mature minded shooter vs any other builders muzzleloader? Id like to see you validate that point. I've seen some pretty impressive shooting from guys shooting smokeless muzzleloaders of non Hankins design that would be competitive at the challenge. A properly built gun of either 209 or LRMP design really comes down to shooter experience and practice.
I visit both boards and don't post often. Some of you are acting like little girls gossiping with your girlfriends. If you don't like what's being said on whatever board its amazing you have this thing called a choice. Don't visit. Your no better person visiting whatever board and running back to this board like you are trying to get approval or make yourself relevant in some manner by making comments. I for one am sick of it.
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Post by mike on Oct 18, 2016 20:33:22 GMT -5
Amen, Richard.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2016 20:37:50 GMT -5
Many people make custom muzzleloaders and guns for that matter but I truly think Tom Post and his swinglock muzzleloaders are in a league of their own and he is truly without peer when it comes to innovations and custom muzzleloaders. His Action, priming system, sizing dies to name a few. I don't own one because they are out of my price range but if money were no option I would. I had the opportunity to have one built many years ago at a great price but I made a mistake and purchased a bad bull. I had used a buddies before and was ignorant to the world of smokeless muzzleloaders. Hind site is always 20/20. WTWThunter- just because an invite goes out and nobody shows up doesn't mean anything? I would love to come to a shoot somewhere but unfortunately logistically it will likely never happen because of my job in the Military and kids with sporting events. I barely have time to shoot at local range as it is much less travel. I would be willing to bet that many are in the same boat. It would be fun to attend a shoot but unless at a local range it will likely never happen. And most people don't care to travel to another state just to prove a point. Richard, how does Hanks rifle appeal to the more accuracy and mature minded shooter vs any other builders muzzleloader? Id like to see you validate that point. I've seen some pretty impressive shooting from guys shooting smokeless muzzleloaders of non Hankins design that would be competitive at the challenge. A properly built gun of either 209 or LRMP design really comes down to shooter experience and practice. I visit both boards and don't post often. Some of you are acting like little girls gossiping with your girlfriends. If you don't like what's being said on whatever board its amazing you have this thing called a choice. Don't visit. Your no better person visiting whatever board and running back to this board like you are trying to get approval or make yourself relevant in some manner by making comments. I for one am sick of it. No one is twisting your arm to come here or there. You sure have a way of making yourself welcome. Does it make you feel like a real man to tell us real men how to act? I think we were more surprised by the post because nothing was done to provoke it that we knew of. BTW Amen Richard and Jeff
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Post by mtj555 on Oct 18, 2016 20:51:35 GMT -5
I don't need a post to make me feel like a man. The uniform I wear and the many competitions of a two way live fire range where targets fire back at me have proven I am.
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Post by 12ptdroptine on Oct 18, 2016 20:57:03 GMT -5
Mtj555 I know Richard and understood what I THINK he was saying about mature and accuracy shooters. I feel like a mature ( older) shooter not fascinated by the " tactical " appearance of the guns in question. However I feel they are more attractive to the younger generation of shooter? To me the round tube forend doesn't lend itself to sitting squarely in a front bag without torquing and rolling around. Therefore the square flat forend style as in " accuracy" shooter is where Richard was intending his comment to address. I really doubt he was referring to the " maturity" level in anything other than age differance. Between the desire for which type of guns . I feel I know Richard well enough to make this point in his defense . Richard ....please chime in and tell me if I am wrong or out of line. Mtj555 you could definitely choose your wording and accusations more maturely. Thank You All Drop
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2016 20:58:02 GMT -5
I don't need a post to make me feel like a man. The uniform I wear and the many competitions of a two way live fire range where targets fire back at me have proven I am. Good to hear. Look forward to meeting you at the Kentucky Challenge this spring.
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Post by Richard on Oct 18, 2016 22:03:58 GMT -5
Mike...............Droptine hit the nail on the head. Hanks rifle is built more on the traditional and proven long range benchrest design. Tom's rifle is geared more towards the tactical/military crowd. Nothing wrong with it other than its not THE best platform for maximum BR type accuracy. The tube type guns more lend themselves to position shooting and at various distances and terrain. No hard feelings.
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Post by mtj555 on Oct 18, 2016 22:37:20 GMT -5
I don't need a post to make me feel like a man. The uniform I wear and the many competitions of a two way live fire range where targets fire back at me have proven I am. Good to hear. Look forward to meeting you at the Kentucky Challenge this spring. Wish I could. Unfortunately Army had other plans for me. Moved from NC to Texas for an Academy until next Summer.
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Post by hillbill on Oct 19, 2016 3:59:30 GMT -5
Everyone has made their point, let's put it to bed, fussing will only escalate and turn nasty, it's time to put some animals on the ground, not another man's reputation.
Jeff's and Tom Post's reputation speak for themselves through their guns, neither needs us to validate their wares, it's obvious when powder is ignited that both do great work, it's time to be men!
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Post by dannoboone on Oct 19, 2016 10:30:55 GMT -5
It's awkward and sometimes uncomfortable to be caught in the middle. Pretty sure I'm not the only one in that boat. I've had very good dealings with people on both boards. People on both boards strive for excellent muzzle loaders. It's a crying shame personalities get in the way of progress. I would love to have one of Tom's beautiful wood-stocked rifles...wouldn't give $.02 for either of the new ones, but that's just me. No need to belittle anyone for salivating over his new ML's. I just personally do not care for "black guns". Give me the M-1 Garand or a Ranch Mini-14 over An AR-15, but again, that's just me. P.S. And thank-you, Jeff, for starting this board. Between the two boards, we all can, and have, learned a LOT!
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Post by nyhunter on Oct 29, 2016 16:02:01 GMT -5
Well said Richard.
Different strokes for different folks.
There's room for everyone !!!
Sorry guys for the double post.
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Post by nyhunter on Oct 29, 2016 16:03:44 GMT -5
Tom's rifle definitely caters to the "Tactical" crowd which seems to be where many are on Doug's. Not saying that is bad, just different. Hank's rifle, on the other hand, appeals to the "Accuracy" and more mature minded shooter.......ala Bench Rest Shooter. There is room for all disciplines. Can I hear an "Amen?" Well said Richard. Different strokes for different folks. There's room for everyone !!!
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