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Post by Richard on Jan 15, 2024 22:52:05 GMT -5
Fedx should be delivering four new lot numbers of Eley match tomorrow ( it was supposed to be here today) My truck is packed and will head to the range as soon as it arrives.
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Post by buckeye68 on Jan 16, 2024 16:50:26 GMT -5
Post some pictures!
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Post by Richard on Jan 21, 2024 16:00:53 GMT -5
No pictures as the targets are trashed. Of the four lots I tested, the one with Killough's lot # 1073-1023-03394 www.killoughshootingsports.com/ gave me the best/consistent results: Two 25 shot groups with velocity and ES listed: #1--1090/28 with a 100 yard group size of 1.200" with 24 shots in .985" Group #2--1094/28 group size 1.266". Both these groups showed a horizontal stringing due to the variable wind condition. The other three lots showed a lot of variation in ES. So, I ordered two bricks of that lot number. I don't shoot anywhere near as much as buckewye68 s0, I am not buying cases of this stuff. Down the road when Killough lists some new lots, I will play some more and pick up a few boxes to test. |
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Post by mike on Jan 22, 2024 15:12:09 GMT -5
No pictures as the targets are trashed. Of the four lots I tested, the one with Killough's lot # 1073-1023-03394 www.killoughshootingsports.com/ gave me the best/consistent results: Two 25 shot groups with velocity and ES listed: #1--1090/28 with a 100 yard group size of 1.200" with 24 shots in .985" Group #2--1094/28 group size 1.266". Both these groups showed a horizontal stringing due to the variable wind condition. The other three lots showed a lot of variation in ES. So, I ordered two bricks of that lot number. I don't shoot anywhere near as much as buckewye68 s0, I am not buying cases of this stuff. Down the road when Killough lists some new lots, I will play some more and pick up a few boxes to test. Richard, I'm curious to learn how you decide which lot numbers to try? Do you base you selections on the FPS that your rifle has previously enjoyed shooting or do you buy ammo made on a specific ammo machine? Or is it a combination of both? Or is it just picking at random then shooting for group size and ES at 100 yards? I don't compete, but know that my .22 rifles will only shoot well (pinpoint consistent accuracy) when I feed them high quality (and very expensive) ammo. |
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Post by Richard on Jan 22, 2024 19:01:08 GMT -5
Truthfully, these have been random picks. I usually like to pick lots with lower listed velocity. However, this batch of listed ammo tended to be mostly above 1070 fps. I thought, what the heck, let me see what the higher velocity ammo will do?
I the past, my 21" lilia barrel seems to like ammo that will chronograph in the 1090's range. (Sub sonic range) Two of these lots were above 1100, which is iffy for sub sonic. Realistically, I like to see consistent velocity along with low ES's. With slow moving , low BC bullets, ES is extremely important. Particularly in group or bullseye shooting. With PRS and NRL type competition you can get away with larger ES's since the targets only have to be "hit"
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Post by Richard on Jan 23, 2024 22:46:24 GMT -5
So, this morning I got to the range around 8:30 and after scaring a herd of deer away, I got set up to shoot. 36 degrees, cloudy with no wind. All 100 yards. My FedEx guy had just dropped off my order of the previously tested Eley match lot 1073 of which I brought one box for additional shooting/testing. BTW, I shoot from inside a room I heat with a 220- volt electric heater. The temp. getting to the upper 40's. I also have one wind flag/daisy wheel out at 50 yards to verify any air movement. I started out with five foulers then shot a 25 shot group with an older lot to warm the barrel up. Its velocity was 1097 with a 38 fps ES. It grouped 1.373" but had 23 shots in .748". Next came the new lot that FedEx just delivered. Two 25 shot groups: #1 averaged 1097/36 with a 1.121" group with 24 shots in .917". The highest shot was 1116 fps and the lowest was 1080. The second group averaged 1098/32 with a 1.240" group and 23 shots in .807". Highest shot 1112 fps and the lowest similarly 1080. As with the same lot I tested last week, the velocities for both groups were only one fps apart and the ES's were only 4 fps different. As can be seen in the photo, those shots outside the group can be attributed to the odd ball shots which open up the ES's. Many times I shoot five and ten shot groups with ES's in the mid to low teens which is really good....however, when you go for longer strings of shots, those odd (flyers) are what causes you to miss the "ten" or "X" and spoil a 250 score. This is why testing large strings is important.  eliminate duplicates online |
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Post by buckeye68 on Jan 24, 2024 5:28:39 GMT -5
Nice testing. I wish I could test during the winter months.
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Post by mike on Jan 24, 2024 9:46:13 GMT -5
Very interesting results. Richard, you have a very consistent shooting barrel and are a very skilled trigger puller. And confirms again, besides an accurate rifle and skilled shooting, in .22lr precision shooting, it's all about lot-testing and selecting high-end Eley and Lapua ammo.
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Post by Richard on Jan 26, 2024 15:17:29 GMT -5
Thank you Mike! While I have only been a little more serious about rimfire for the past two years, my back ground in both short and long range benchrest + rifle building, gives me a good sense of how this game is played. Unless one understands the many shortcomings of the 22LR, they will never shoot consistent small groups.
Oh, and by the way, those 25 shot groups were shot in 3 1/2 minutes....as per my count down clock.
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