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Post by rt50blaster on Aug 26, 2023 18:56:48 GMT -5
hey guys just got my hankins prefit 700 sml barrel. has anyone shot 240 grain xtp mags with imr4198. just doing this for practice and break in. after that I'm going to either Pittman or fury 275 or 300 grain bullets. will need some info on these too with a general idea of velocity. remember this is a barrel nut gun and thanks in advance
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Post by Richard on Aug 27, 2023 11:04:13 GMT -5
Shoot the 250 XTP if you can? They respond much better as their jacket is not as thick and they obturate more easily which relates to the jacket getting into the rifling more efficiently. 60 grains of either H or IMR 4198 should get you in the 2700 fps category.
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Post by sew on Aug 30, 2023 17:23:39 GMT -5
The 250 XTP is a far better choice, I agree. If you shoot a deer with it, you will see why it obturated so much easier.๐
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Post by buckeye68 on Aug 30, 2023 21:08:31 GMT -5
250 XTP will explode as soon as it hits the deerโs hide on the entry with maybe or maybe not an exit hole if you want to call it an exit hole @ 2475 fps.
The 300 XTP is a much better bullet at killing deer over its little brother.
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Post by rt50blaster on Aug 31, 2023 7:48:01 GMT -5
I'm not gonna be hunting with the xtp's. ill be hunting with Pittman 275 or 300. and suggestions on 4198 or 4227?
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Post by ar91599 on Aug 31, 2023 18:40:26 GMT -5
๐ on 300 pitman!
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Post by smokelessk on Aug 31, 2023 19:27:21 GMT -5
I'm not gonna be hunting with the xtp's. ill be hunting with Pittman 275 or 300. and suggestions on 4198 or 4227? 4198 is a solid golden standard. In a barrel nut gun I would go with the 275's. In my Encore, which handles loads similar to a barrel nut gun, I have been shooting 300's because that is what I have. (I also have a 15 pound full shank Rem 700 build.) However, to buy bullets specifically for the "less capable" SML, personally I only see a gain of more recoil by using a 300 over a 275. The deer are not going to know the difference. Even a 275 at a "modest" 2,200-2,500 fps is way more than really needed for any whitetail. Gotta remember, these "big bore loads" in the big guns. They're generating more energy than a lot of the rifles used for cape buffalo and elephant.
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Post by Richard on Sept 1, 2023 15:27:59 GMT -5
You were initially asking about the 240 gr. magnum bullet; I responded with the standard 250 being a better alternative as far as accuracy (in the same weight class) Personally, the majority of my load testing has been done with the 300 gr. XTP. Accuracy is almost on a par with the Pittman bullets out to 100 yards.....the then Pittman's take over. I'm pushing the 300 XTP's in the upper 2900's out of a 1.3" (for 6") heavy 30" Brux on a regular 700 short action and 18 lbs. of heft!
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Post by joelmoney on Sept 5, 2023 11:17:52 GMT -5
hey guys just got my hankins prefit 700 sml barrel. has anyone shot 240 grain xtp mags with imr4198. just doing this for practice and break in. after that I'm going to either Pittman or fury 275 or 300 grain bullets. will need some info on these too with a general idea of velocity. remember this is a barrel nut gun and thanks in advance Are you using HIS or Direct Ignition? The IMR 4198 is a little more temperature sensitive than the Hodgen variant. I certainly understand component availability can dictate what you are using. All break action loads should be safe. Are you using magnum or standard rifle primers? Bill has some really good advice here. hanksmessageboard.freeforums.net/thread/6503/hankins-prefit
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Post by rt50blaster on Oct 2, 2023 21:24:41 GMT -5
decided on the 300 gr pittman with 62gr of imr4198. shoots baseball sized groups at 400 yds. I'm now wishing I had got into smokeless years ago. I'm hooked!!!!
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Post by makeamericangreat on Oct 22, 2023 9:54:31 GMT -5
Has anyone shot the Parker 45 cal 270gr Match/Hunter. They are claiming a .372 BC
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Post by drinkwaj280 on Oct 22, 2023 10:41:31 GMT -5
Has anyone shot the Parker 45 cal 270gr Match/Hunter. They are claiming a .372 BC Yes. I used these bullets for the first 4 years of my smokeless muzzleloader hunting seasons. They are rated at these BC's assuming 2850fps according to their catalog. They are affective on thin skinned game like deer and coyote. I have killed both with these bullets. E-Max are good effective bullets a little pricey at $117.50 plus shipping. I did a SML rebuild in 2020 and was looking for a bullet with a thicker jacket to handle the higher speeds and pressures. This is when I discovered the Pittman Accumax. While the E-Max has a jacket thickness of .015 (same as the BE) all Pittmans are .021 thickness. Also, the Pittmans have a sharper and sleeker profile and are priced better especially when add the shipping costs. In 2021 I switched again to the Aeromax 303HC. The higher velocities I was getting with powders such as RL 10x with heavier bullets required a harder bullet than even the Accumax to hit deer inside of 300yards without being excessively destructive. These guns at high velocities using thinly jacketed bullets on light game are destructive. At a similiar price point as the E-Max the Aeromax is a better option IMO. The 303HC is my go to hunting bullet for all these reasons.
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Post by blackpowder72 on Oct 26, 2023 6:52:17 GMT -5
Has anyone shot the Parker 45 cal 270gr Match/Hunter. They are claiming a .372 BC I tried the Parker couldn't get them to group. Stick with Fury or Pittman.
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