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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2017 18:01:17 GMT -5
I just ran upon one of these guns on Gb...It cost around $ 1K,but no filing fee,200 stamp fee,etc....
I imediately called Silencerco to see if they could install one on my custom .45cal....They informed me that their gun has the silencer permenantly attached to the barrel and that is how they are getting away with selling their gun with no red tape involved...Pretty cool to say the least.....
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Post by GMB54-120 on Nov 9, 2017 1:45:17 GMT -5
Max load 100gr BH209 and thats the only recommended powder...Besides, how you gunna clean a permanently attached can with the more corrosive powders.
Only full bore projectiles like Thors, FPB and the Fed BOR LOK are recommended...Not even supposed to use Powebelts.
Its a Traditions Strikefire that you can buy for $400 or less
Sorry but i think its a joke.
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Post by AJ on Nov 9, 2017 9:15:28 GMT -5
The best thing about this gun is the ATF Decision Letter which states:
Also, the GCA §921(a)(16) defines the term “antique firearm” as:
So a manufacturer with the SOT license can legally build and permanently attach the can to a ML barrel. Whether these can be attached to a ML built on a centerfire action is a gray area. I am not sure how ATF defines "readily" in the last sentence. On a Rem 700ML action or the Savage 10ML-II, it should be legal for a SOT manufacturer to sell without the Form-4 ($200 stamp) on a SML gun. I have sent Silencerco a email asking about custom work.
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Post by doug136 on Nov 9, 2017 12:21:29 GMT -5
Very interested to hear your response
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Post by AJ on Nov 9, 2017 16:50:43 GMT -5
They said
I have a friend at work that has a SOT manufacturer stamp. I may show him this and request some work.
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Post by doug136 on Nov 11, 2017 7:51:19 GMT -5
What is a SOT stamp ?
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Post by AJ on Nov 11, 2017 20:45:32 GMT -5
SOT stands for Special Occupational Tax. The FFL 01 allows the holder to deal in purchasing and sales of firearms but not class-3 NFA (National Firearm Act) items. A FFL 07 allows the holder to manufacture firearms as well as buy and sell firearms but not including Class-3 NFA items. When the FFL holder wants to deal with NFA items (full-auto weapons, short barreled rifles and shotguns - SBR & SBS, and suppressors) they have to obtain a SOT (Special occupational Tax).
A Type 1 FFL will become a Class 3 SOT - which means they can deal or transfer either standard or NFA weapons
A Type 7 FFL will become a Class 2 SOT - which means they can manufacture, deal, or transfer either standard or NFA weapons
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Post by nick50471 on Nov 14, 2017 21:33:28 GMT -5
In my experience with my can and using it on a muzzleloader, I’m not sure this is a good idea.
Muzzle velocity is completely unstable. My last 15 rounds with the can had an ES of 68fps. The first round is always high. Then they drop, then they plateau about 30-35fps slower than the high.
At 100yards this might not matter much. But with an inaccurate Traditions rifle this makes 200-300 very challenging.
Also loading is going to be interesting. The can holds in the vapor and causes powder to stick to the bore of the rifle. Pellets will be ok but BH209 will stick. If you don’t have good bullet or sabot to bore seal this might be a problem.
I work with Silencerco and as a rule they do some great things. This appears to have been rushed into market.
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Post by doug136 on Nov 15, 2017 8:44:29 GMT -5
Do you have this rifle Nick ?
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Post by nick50471 on Nov 15, 2017 10:33:19 GMT -5
Do you have this rifle Nick ? No. My experience is shooting a Silencerco Hybrid on my RemBrux 45. I do shoot. Traditions Vortex striker fire that this rifle is built on. Decent rifle, great trigger. |
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Post by doug136 on Nov 17, 2017 8:01:39 GMT -5
Is that the silencer Luke sells ?
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Post by doug136 on Nov 17, 2017 8:02:31 GMT -5
I've thought about playing with a silencer
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Post by encore50a on Nov 17, 2017 10:05:08 GMT -5
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Post by nick50471 on Nov 17, 2017 11:50:49 GMT -5
Is that the silencer Luke sells ? Yes he sells the Silencerco Hybrid |
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