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Post by Richard on Jul 22, 2017 14:48:44 GMT -5
 OK, so today I constructed what will be the scoring board/tote board/wailing wall for the upcoming Kentucky Challenge. It is very similar to the one I put together for the spring shoot but took a little more time to make it look better and incorporated a pre spots that were not there previously. Going across the top from left to right: The first column is the Competitor # starting from where you sign up on down. The next is your bench number---1 thru 5 as we only have five benches. Third is your name (I would like to put your real first name and include your forum name if substantially different?) The third column will be the relay you are shooting on (five shooters to a relay). The fifth column will be a designation for your class (whatever Hank comes up with and depending on how many shooters we have etc.--- Could be "B" for break-open? "H" for hunter and "O" for open or whatever. Next we have the four yardages: G for group size {YOU MUST HAVE THREE SHOTS ON THE TARGET PAPER TO BE CONSIDERED A GROUP] S for your score (including X count) The third column with be where you place at this yardage for group and then the same on the next column for you score. Once all the yardages are shot we will add up the four group sizes and put that figure in the Group Agg. (short for aggregate) column-----------your place amongst all competitors than placed in the adjacent column. We will then do the same for the scores.. In the column marked "combined" we then add together the place you landed in both group and score. The person with the lowest number becomes the Grand Agg. winner. To make it clearer, lets say after adding up all your group sizes you wind up in third place "3" in group. Then we add all the places from score and your number is fourth place "4" ......so your combined number is "7" Hank came in first in group but 7th. in score so his number is "8" But Deadeye came in 2nd. in group and 2nd. in score...........He gets a "4" And if no one has any lower numbers, Deadeye get FIRST in the Grand, YOU get second with your "7" and Hank winds up third with his "8" And so on and so on with all the competitors. I am going to mention an additional point here that I have not discussed with anyone, just my personal thought and it concerns TACTICAL style muzzle brakes. (BTW, they are not allowed in registered bench rest matches). I would like to see shooters using this type of brake being put on either the far right or far left bench and then some type of shield (could be a small piece of plywood with a 2x4 screwed to the bottom that could be "c" clamped to the bench to keep the blast from the adjacent shooter? Short of that, at least a courtesy to let the adjacent shooter know when the blast is coming. I hope this will be addressed. I left a couple of columns open as we might use them for placement of classes other than the open. |
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Post by Kyle on Jul 22, 2017 15:25:31 GMT -5
Looks Good!
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Post by Hank on Jul 22, 2017 18:14:16 GMT -5
The score board looks really good.
I want to let everyone know that we have not determined any classes as of yet, this will be decided at the shoot as a group. I am planning on having three classes, Break open, a hunter and an open class. We as a group will decide where the weight limit is drawn for the hunter class rifle and all others will be grouped in with the open class. There will be no caliber restrictions in classes, rifles will only be restricted by weight and modifications. No scope limits will be set. Further discussion will take place at the range on Friday afternoon.
As far as the walls go for blocking muzzle blast from your neighboring shooter, we have some things in the works and hopefully will have them implemented for the fall shoot.
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Post by hillbill on Jul 22, 2017 18:45:16 GMT -5
sounds reasonable to me.
What if someone wants to shoot in more than one class? Something we need to think about or no?
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Post by Richard on Jul 22, 2017 19:42:36 GMT -5
I think it should be dependent on how many shooters we have at the event and if time permits?
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Post by doug136 on Jul 22, 2017 20:05:17 GMT -5
Would it be easier just to wait until the shooter besides you makes his shot ?At Friendship I always wait on the shooter beside me to shoot before really getting serious about my shot . That may take less time than trying to mount some sort of wall unless your planning on leaving it up .
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Post by Hank on Jul 22, 2017 20:11:38 GMT -5
We can handle 25 shooters, so if we have 20 people and five of them want to shoot in two classes then I would think we can do that. We will just have to see and do what works for us at the time,,, kinda like we always do.
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Post by Richard on Jul 22, 2017 20:23:16 GMT -5
Doug............All I am talking is maybe a 2' x 2' piece of 1/4" plywood with a piece of 2 x 4 screwed to the bottom for a place to put a "C" clamp. Take 30 sec. to put up or take down? It will also keep CLCLOPS from blowing all your equipment off your bench  |
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Post by hillbill on Jul 22, 2017 21:01:22 GMT -5
we will put something up, it will not be a problem, I have something in mind with carpet on it, maybe it will keep some of the blast off the trigger guy too.
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Post by Kyle on Jul 22, 2017 21:15:54 GMT -5
Partitions have their advantages, maybe disadvantages too. I wear my powder funnel around my neck on a lanyard due to almost shooting a load through it at Kentucky Challenge #1. Partitions may obscure the view of someone who could see something similar about to happen. I'm all for anything that enhances safety and provides a better experience for the shooters.
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Post by hillbill on Jul 22, 2017 21:37:55 GMT -5
i'm thinking
only extend it back to about half way of the bench so as not to obstruct the view between shooters, about 18" above the bench,extend 18"-2' past the outside wall.
most barrels hang to or past the edge of the wall, just thinking?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2017 21:40:17 GMT -5
Partitions have their advantages, maybe disadvantages too. I wear my powder funnel around my neck on a lanyard due to almost shooting a load through it at Kentucky Challenge #1. Partitions may obscure the view of someone who could see something similar about to happen. I'm all for anything that enhances safety and provides a better experience for the shooters. Agreed. I think a small divider like has been mentioned has merits over a larger one. I would think that most like to time their shots so that their neighbor isn't shooting at the same exact time. In other words, block the blast but don't obscure view of the neighboring shooter. |
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Post by doug136 on Jul 22, 2017 22:39:22 GMT -5
Partitions have their advantages, maybe disadvantages too. I wear my powder funnel around my neck on a lanyard due to almost shooting a load through it at Kentucky Challenge #1. Partitions may obscure the view of someone who could see something similar about to happen. I'm all for anything that enhances safety and provides a better experience for the shooters. Agreed. I think a small divider like has been mentioned has merits over a larger one. I would think that most like to time their shots so that their neighbor isn't shooting at the same exact time. In other words, block the blast but don't obscure view of the neighboring shooter. That sounds like a good idea |
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Post by 12ptdroptine on Jul 23, 2017 5:21:00 GMT -5
This is getting to be pretty technical now
Drop
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Post by hillbill on Jul 23, 2017 6:25:08 GMT -5
Na
nothing technical about a blast wall, it will be something easily put up and taken down, we will do a test run on friday and can them if they don't work well.
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Post by deadeye on Jul 23, 2017 9:31:55 GMT -5
looks good!
I also do the timing thing paying attention to shooters on each side,i guess I'm used to Cyclops but hang on to your hat at all times. 
** one more thing to speed things up but don't know if I will get time to build them-at one of our local shoots they have pre-made target hanging board's with a thin layer of firm foam of some type that all are drilled the same,just hang em on screws that permanently stay on the shooting board.
the boards could be prepared near the benches with targets,it would only take one guy to go down pull the shot targets & hang the new ones including sighter targets.
the shot targets could be removed at the scoring bench saving time in the field peeling the targets.
the only problem & could be fixed easily is there wood behind the coroplast to secure the target? a few 2x4's would be a easy fix.
the foam board I have available is approx. 1/4" thick that would be stapled to the wood board.
just my thoughts. |
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Post by doug136 on Jul 23, 2017 10:41:25 GMT -5
I have a dumb question . Ive only been to one Challenge (shooting) do you get any sighters at each distance ?
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Post by deadeye on Jul 23, 2017 12:23:25 GMT -5
There are sighter boards at all distance & are optional.
I believe we set a string time of 8 or 10 minutes
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Post by hillbill on Jul 23, 2017 12:40:58 GMT -5
last shoot you could do a sighter at each distance which makes things a lot easier.
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Post by doug136 on Jul 23, 2017 16:12:07 GMT -5
Excellent
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