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Post by rojo23 on Aug 16, 2015 19:06:35 GMT -5
I forgot to asked anyone with all that was going on this weekend about Barnes bullets for hunting. I bought some TEZ 250 grain, and I did hear people talking about annealing the solid copper bullets. How would you anneal the bullet with the plastic tip? Is annealing needed just to size then? Does the annealing soften them enough so that they do not penetrate as they were designed. thanks
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2015 19:28:51 GMT -5
I don't think annealing is an option for the TEZ's. The plastic tip is not made to come off and and back on, at least not when i tried.
There are some that have had good results with these bullets using a duplex load of clays/4198. Richard is a big advocate of that combo and I'm sure when he gets back from Kentucky he would share his recipe. I think there are some posts of this somewhere here.
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Post by rojo23 on Aug 16, 2015 19:46:10 GMT -5
Sounds good. I didn't know how tough the solid copper bullets would be to size. I wished I would have thought to ask Richard about those bullets. He is the one I got the idea to use them from.
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Post by keith on Aug 16, 2015 20:04:47 GMT -5
I don't think those bullets anneal without the tip annealing too.
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Post by rojo23 on Aug 16, 2015 20:45:04 GMT -5
I don't think those bullets anneal without the tip annealing too. that was my concern. I figured if the copper was heated up to 1200 degrees the plastic tip would have to melt. I will try them in my sizing die and see what happens. Thanks for the info.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2015 21:09:55 GMT -5
I don't think those bullets anneal without the tip annealing too. that was my concern. I figured if the copper was heated up to 1200 degrees the plastic tip would have to melt. I will try them in my sizing die and see what happens. Thanks for the info. It was my experience that they liked to be on the tight side and boosted with fast powder like Clays or Red Dot. Too hot for my gun. I have a Douglas barrel, 26" 1:22
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2015 23:28:19 GMT -5
There really is no need to anneal them. They are not difficult to size smooth or full form. I, along with others, have found they shoot as well if not better smooth sized. Smooth sizing makes reloading in the field a whole lot quicker, especially for a follow-up shot. They are pure poison on deer at most any velocity from 1000fps to 3000fps and any range that maintains at least 1000 fps to open them up. Some use veggie wads under them but I have better accuracy with dry wool wads "little stinkers". The load that I use is 10/60 Imr SR4759/H4198 above 60 degrees and 10/65 below 60 degrees. They do like the kick of a duplex as they do not obturate a measurable amount. I believe, that with the kick of the duplex, they obturate in the barrel but spring back once fired. I recovered the two in the picture below from the eigth of eight water filled milk jugs at 50 yards. The lands are ever so slightly engraved on the bullet but the OD is still approx .4505"
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Post by rojo23 on Aug 17, 2015 6:27:53 GMT -5
Thanks for the information. I was thinking smooth sizing was the way to go as far as deer hunting. I will give them a try and see what we come up with, thanks for all the information Fellas.
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Post by schunter on Aug 20, 2015 7:12:59 GMT -5
I have been told that the Barnes are annealed at the factory to make them a little softer.
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