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Post by rojo23 on Jul 21, 2015 18:35:05 GMT -5
I just picked up a Remington 700 long magnum action. I have been looking at the 7mm mag for a new build. I would be mostly using it for hunting, but also some long range shooting from time to time. Some people have recommended the 300 win mag, but I already have a 300 wsm so that would be like the same caliber to me. Any suggestions on a caliber for my action. Thanks.
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Post by Hank on Jul 21, 2015 20:18:23 GMT -5
7mm Rem Mag.. Ammo is easy to get and if you hand load you have a limitless choice of bullets in a wide range of weights. Can't go wrong..
Jeff..
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Post by keith on Jul 21, 2015 20:54:01 GMT -5
Another vote for 7mm. Great performance with less recoil than a .300 mag. In long action there are only two choices as far as I'm concerned : 7mm and .338
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Post by markb317 on Jul 22, 2015 0:07:21 GMT -5
7mm Rem. Ultra Mag. would be a good hotrod shooting 180 grain Berger Hybrids.
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Post by beans on Jul 22, 2015 5:11:47 GMT -5
I grabbed a Rem 700 7mm Mag a few years ago. It is one of my favorite guns. The biggest reason is that this one is an old relic, 1st year production beat up a little....and it shoots unbelievable. Never been bedded and the trigger is perfect and maybe the best trigger on any gun I've owned.
Ballistically, even the biggest 7mm's like the STW, the 7mm Mag is so close behind that it almost doesn't make sense to burn so much more power, IMO.
With Barnes bullets, if they will shoot, you can go light for caliber, still get a decent BC, and have a lazor beam gun with authority.
Current load that is sub MOA everytime I shoot it: 120 Barnes TTSX, Std Win primer, 72 gr Re22, Winchester case @3450 fps +/-.
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Post by jims on Jul 22, 2015 10:10:50 GMT -5
The Rem 7mm mag will do much and there are plenty of places to get it. If you want to go bigger the new 7mm Nosler cartridge has more case capacity but shells may be hard to find. You could reload. I thought it was based off a larger diameter Gibbs case. They also have a 6.5 Nosler on the same case. Both quite fast.
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Post by keith on Jul 22, 2015 10:57:07 GMT -5
If a 7mm Rem Mag isn't getting the job done a faster 7mm isn't the answer.
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Post by markb317 on Jul 22, 2015 13:26:18 GMT -5
If you want a wicked 7mm then the 7mm Hulk is the way to go. It is a 338 Lapua shortened and blown out. Shoots a 180 Berger Hybrid at 3400 to 3500 ft./sec. It's an elk killer out to a mile. It's a variant of the 300 Hulk that holds the IBS 1000yd light gun record. It is designed and built by Tom Sarver at Thunder Valley Precision.
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Post by keith on Jul 22, 2015 13:51:09 GMT -5
You hit a point of diminishing returns when you start chasing velocities like that. I went through a wildcat phase in that pursuit and am back to the 7mm RM with heavies. Also, if you ever travel and your gun and ammo don't arrive together (happened to me at a match) your trip comes to a halt if you don't have a gun that shoots several types of cartridges( if a wildcat). Luckily, when I had that happen I was shooting a multi chamber gun and was able to shoot a buddy's ammo. That caused me to change how I approached my serious guns.
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Post by rojo23 on Jul 22, 2015 20:01:57 GMT -5
Thanks guys, I was leaning toward the 7mm mag. Most everything I have been reading about the 7mm most people shoot the 168 grain for longer ranges, is suggestions on bullet weights? I would lean toward 168 or 180s. I like the heavier bullets to fight the wind. thanks
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Post by keith on Jul 22, 2015 20:10:01 GMT -5
I shoot 168gn SMK and 162gn A-MAX
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Post by hillbill on Jul 22, 2015 20:53:53 GMT -5
I had a 7 stw some time back, a Sako 75 that was a nail driver. I bought it from a good friend that died of cancer a year later and every time I got that gun out to shoot it saddened me greatly thinking about my friend. I sold it and will likely never own a 7 bigger than a 7 mag, anything bigger is over kill. the 7 mag is a very good choice.
my favorite all around hunting rifle is a Sako 75 7-08 though..
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Post by keith on Jul 22, 2015 21:21:48 GMT -5
I had a friend, who turned out to not be a friend at all, that sold my custom Remington 700Ti 7mm-08 Improved while he was doing some work on it. That saddened me greatly. He went to jail because he apparently did that a bunch. Your story is much more tragic since you lost a good rifle and good friend.
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Post by csm19z5m on Aug 21, 2015 12:04:46 GMT -5
I have killed more deer and elk with a 7mm Rem Mag than any of the other rifles I have .......... combined. I have a 300 Win Mag too and really like it for hunting elk where I expect very long shots (over 300 yds) because of it's knockdown energy at extended ranges but a 7MM Rem Mag will get the job done too if the shot is correctly placed. Never lost an animal with either gun. Both calibers shoot plenty flat enough too and their is an endless number of bullets available for each. The 300 Win has more recoil for sure but when hunting it is a non issue for me at least. Sometimes the "need for speed" in rifle calibers is over rated. You don't have to be the fastest, just accurate.
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Post by ron on Nov 11, 2015 19:07:38 GMT -5
I have a 270 weatherby mag I love and it is a tack driver!
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Post by rossman40 on Nov 21, 2015 13:18:16 GMT -5
I like Hillbills suggestion of 7mm-08, sweet shooting round. But you have a long action with a magnum bolt so there is always the 7mm RUM. To me the advantage there is that it is not a belted magnum. But you have to remember the more you up the performance, the less barrel life you'll have. Then the rule I was taught, larger the case, longer the barrel to take full advantage of slower powders.
The Secret Service went with 7mm Rem Mag rifles and supposedly had some barrels wash out in 1000rds.
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Post by keith on Nov 21, 2015 17:49:01 GMT -5
The Secret Service went with 7mm Rem Mag rifles and supposedly had some barrels wash out in 1000rds. That's probably because they shoot them like I do my work and match guns. My work guns in .300 WM are usually good for about 1200-1500 rounds before they are toast. My personal 7mm guns have lasted longer than that because I don't field fire them. |
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Post by rojo23 on Nov 21, 2015 19:29:33 GMT -5
I think that 7mm mag is the way I am going to go. 12-1500 rounds should last me a few years so that won't be an issue. thanks again for all the input.
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Post by keith on Nov 21, 2015 21:06:53 GMT -5
Exactly. People love to point out barrel life but most guys don't live long enough to shoot out a barrel.
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Post by itneverends22 on Nov 21, 2015 23:13:47 GMT -5
I have a 1969 browning b a r 7 rem mag, bought it new and won't shoot anything else, took a nice 6 point today at 298 yds, and a big doe tonight.. it just loves 160gr federal ammo.. 7 rem mag,, can't go wrong,, deer, elk, moose, varmits, it does it all.... has my vote..
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