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Post by keith on Mar 12, 2016 9:48:21 GMT -5
Lots of forums have member challenges. Rather than have the annual rendezvous I am reposting this challenge a friend of mine posted on another forum:
Time for a new drill. We do this one once a year for score.
NRA B8 Bullseye or this one- 10-8forums.com/targets/10-8bullseye.pdf
400 Point Aggregate: Total of 40 rounds and 400 points possible.
100 yards standing to prone. 10 rounds in 60 seconds.
75 yards standing to sitting. 10 rounds in 60 seconds.
50 yards standing to kneeling. 10 rounds in 60 seconds.
25 yards standing. 10 rounds in 60 seconds.
On the NRA target nothing outside of the 7-ring counts and on the 10-8 target nothing outside of the 8-ring counts.
No bipods and no rear bags for any portion. Slings are permissible.
Finally, got a chance to shoot this challenge. I've been busy lately and was actually headed to the range to work with a muzzleloader. Stopped at the LGS which only had Wolf steel case so I grabbed 3 boxes. Zeroed at 100yds then went for it. I got a little wild from the knee since I had to deal with a bolt over base after third shot then rushed what was left of my mag. I'll try it again with some proper ammo.  |
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Post by linebaugh on Mar 12, 2016 10:47:05 GMT -5
I have an ammo can full of 69gr Sierras that dont shoot the best so I might try this Monday if the weather permits. I don't have that target and live in BFE so what are the dimensions of that target? Also how did you end up with 359, whats the point count per shot?
Thanks
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Post by linebaugh on Mar 12, 2016 10:53:59 GMT -5
Oops. Got scoring figured out. Thought the 9 and 10 ring were combined. Not so
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Post by keith on Mar 12, 2016 11:38:51 GMT -5
If you have a printer print the target from the link. That's what I did because I don't keep the other target on hand.
Score your points based on point value or ring. X-ring is worth 10 points. If it breaks the line it's worth the higher point value.
Passing score is 350 where he works.
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Post by keith on Mar 12, 2016 13:32:25 GMT -5
Turns out the 7-ring counts on that target but not on the NRA targets so my score is really a 373. That target doesn't have an X-ring though so if you use it it just scores as a number.
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Post by keith on Mar 15, 2016 19:05:16 GMT -5
Someone said I couldn't do it with irons. I've never been good at being told I couldn't do something then Cole added the challenge of making it sound like I better be able to so I did. I will admit that last time I just zeroed at 100yds then shot the drill. With irons I zeroed at 100yds and too the remaining 9 rounds I had and shot 3 each at 25, 50, and 75yds to make sure I knew how to hold for the drill. Unlike the other day I had no malfunctions so there were no rushed stages and I was able to just shoot on cadence:  This isn't the first time I've seen an improvement with irons over optics. My buddy Norm almost always shoots better with irons over optics. I've watched him do it time and gain at 1000yds because he works harder. The other thing that I think helped was with the 4 MoA dot in the Aimpoint I was covering nearly the entire mass of the target. With the irons I was able to more clearly quarter the target and favor my elevation holds. |
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Post by schunter on Mar 16, 2016 6:47:29 GMT -5
Excellent shooting Keith! Good eyes are essential...
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Post by keith on Mar 23, 2016 19:02:20 GMT -5
I know I'm not the only guy on here with an AR.
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Post by Richard on May 3, 2016 15:02:19 GMT -5
I have one, put together by a guy I swapped for a Rem/PN muzzleloader. He built it with a 300 Blackout upper- 18" Wilson heavy barrel. I kind of got bore with it (made all my own cases) so I bought a 18" Wilson .223 Wylde upper and it sports a 6 x 24 X scope and I mainly shoot it as a bench gun and play with a host of different style and weights of bullets. Its one in eight twist and prefers 69 gr. Sierra MK's. I look to groups of ten shots under 3/4" or better. Sold the Blackout along with the dies and cases!
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Post by linebaugh on May 3, 2016 15:30:56 GMT -5
Nope looks like you and Richard are the only two with AR's (Joking) I completely forgot about this even after I printed the targets off. I'm off the next two days and will try to find some free time to do this. I will be shooting 69smk's also but that is not my guns favorite load. Perhaps 1.5 moa with that load. Gun is a Daniel Defense something the rather with a 16.25" tube and a 1-4x24 vortex pst. I am going to go out on a limb and guess I can't compete with Keiths score but it still looks entertaining so what the heck. I know I'm not the only guy on here with an AR. |
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2016 9:31:24 GMT -5
Here's Linebauh's target for 400 yards.  |
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Post by linebaugh on May 4, 2016 9:34:30 GMT -5
Okay I shot this challenge this morning. Kind of fun and I did better than expected. 378 points, 23x
It's probably cheating but I don't shoot this load anymore so at each station I shot 2 rounds off target on a sighter for confirmation before course of fire. I also did not have a timer but I would take bets that I was finished with many seconds to spare per round.
I also changed scope power to 1x at 25yrds, all others were 4x
I am trying to talk riverrat78 into posting the pic for me. We will see.
Anybody interested should try this, it was fun. Sitting was for sure my worst position.
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Post by linebaugh on May 4, 2016 9:37:18 GMT -5
Thanks Chad but that was not 400 yards, but I wish it was.
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Post by sagittarius on May 20, 2016 23:59:12 GMT -5
Here's a pic of my LMT .308 AR-10 Sorry, no group pics but it can do 1/2" if I do my part. Shown with... Vortex Gen II 4.5-27x56 scope with Vortex Defender lens caps. Aadmount one piece rings and base. An Aadland throw lever. It has a Geissele National Match Marksman Trigger. ...and a Evolution Bipod and Savvy Sniper Sling. (not shown) Outfit weighs 13.8 lbs in case anyone wonders. Yes, it's a heavy Beast but it's built like a tank.  |
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Post by linebaugh on May 21, 2016 11:34:07 GMT -5
Nice rig there Sag'
Like tbat scope color, wish my AR scope was that color as my gun would somewhat match it. Think it's called dark earth?
Anyway what's the recoil like on that beast? I have never shot an AR10 platform gun and have always wondered how they compare for recoil and manuverability.
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Post by sagittarius on May 21, 2016 22:48:43 GMT -5
Thanks for your comments, linebaugh.
Because of the weight and gas operation, the recoil is no more than a .410 gauge shotgun.
The maneuverability isn't great because of the size and weight of the scope but would be pretty decent with a smaller optic like a 1-6 or 2-8x
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Post by hillbill on May 22, 2016 7:00:35 GMT -5
Looks like an interesting and fun challenge, i saw some time back where Keith and a bunch of other guys posted their results over on the fire. some good shooters without a doubt. I would like to try it someday if I ever get time, my problem is always time or the lack of it. I too have several ARs, most are builds, 2-223 guns, 2-6.8s, one POF in .308 that I never shoot. none of my guns are low budget builds, all have decent barrels and internals, Geissele triggers in all but the POF which is their own, some are not wearing scopes anymore as I have robbed them for SMLs so they are just sitting there collecting dust. I guess my problem is a matter of priorities, whatever spare time I have is spent with the wife and kids or messing with the SML game, some day I will get back to the AR world, I truly love to shoot and hunt with them, they are neat guns not just for plinking or SD, they have taken many critters for myself and my son. good looking rig Sag, the 10s are good shooters and the recoil is not bad at all but I find that mine gets left in the safe along with my .223 guns in favor of my 6.8s, some day I plan to change the barrel on my POF to 6.5 creed, I think it would get more attention if I did.. I am licking my lips now wanting to build a sub 6 lb truck & tractor gun in 6.8 but it will take close to 2 Gs to get it done, for now with all the SML stuff I'm doing I will just have chapped lips I guess.. Good shooting guys, maybe someday I will get to it but if so I know the target will be no match for you guys..  |
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Post by jims on May 22, 2016 7:25:13 GMT -5
hillbill: Not a 6.8 but Savage has a 7-08 in their lightweight hunter that weighs 5.75 pounds and shoots well. See the article in the latest Shooting Times. Accurate also.
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Post by hillbill on May 22, 2016 8:11:13 GMT -5
the draw to a lightweight AR for me is the compact size, 16" tube, adjustable stock. my current go to 6.8 is under 32" which I store in a short tactical bag, it's just so easy to tote around and to store in the truck or tractor, pretty accurate too and a deer hammer out to 300 or maybe a little more. it's the only rifle I actually hunted with in the last few years, everything else was these front stuffing bazookas we shoot.
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Post by sagittarius on May 22, 2016 10:04:50 GMT -5
One thing I like about the LMT is the quick interchangeable barrel system. Right now, I believe the barrels available are for 6.5, .260 Rem, .7-08 Rem, 300 Blk out, 6.8, 338 Federal and, of course, .308. From everything I've read, the barrels always return to zero upon being reinstalled. Here's a pic showing my new Modular Evolution bipod and Savvy Sniper Sling.  |
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