Apple Tells the FBI No

I agree..

Has anyone went to the trouble of doing this:


 "iPhone users have the option to set a security feature that only allows a certain number of tries to guess the correct passcode to unlock the phone before all the data on the iPhone is deleted. It's a security measure Apple put in place to keep important data out of the wrong hands."

I am on the fence on this.  

I want to see what's on that phone.  It could be a great find to help keep others safe.  I would also bet that many hacks would love to see some "back-door" software be developed, that when finally leaked or stolen, that could help the hacks hack into an unhackable phone that Mr & Mrs smith bought to have "total" confidence that their personal information was 100% protected.  100% protection is unheard of anymore.

That's the double edge sword we live by.  Same as the NSA recording every call and text made by everyone.  Is that right or wrong?  I don't like it and I even tone down things I want to say to people that could be taken the wrong way by an "eavesdropper".  It suppresses my freedom of speech in a way.  At least a smart persons freedom of speech.  Who wants someone knocking at, or kicking down your door because you made a very off color remark about the president?  Or made many highly critical texts or had conversations about the gov't?

Bottom line?  We are supposed to be a free country.  Un-encumbered by the threat of saying whatever we want about anyone we want.  Good people with no bad intentions should be able to rant about anything.  The downside is not being able to see something that might really be obvious and noteworthy of attention.

What is the answer?  I do not know.  I will say that the good guys should carry at all times.  Good guys that see, hear and sense things should report them more often.

Tough world we live in and it's not easy to say what is the right thing to do. 

I am not a fan of people in my personal business, but I don't have anything to hide. The information on that phone could possibly prevent another attack, or save lives then Apple should get the data for the FBI. As Richard said, the letter of the law can bite the good guys in the but from time to time. You would think our government would have better hackers that could break the security on an phone.

Like Beans, I'm on the fence concerning this.

Upon hearing about the court order and Apple's fight against it, I wondered
why the FBI didn't go about it differently, and later heard that others 
wondered the same thing. Why didn't/don't they just get an order for an
agent supervised method of Apple personnel work to unlock the phone?
The FBI could get their information and Apple could keep the I-phone
security in tact? Everyone then should be happy, right? Probably not......

The I-phone has become a favorite of "bad guys" (and gals) all over the
world because of its functions AND security. All the "good guys" fighting
the "bad guys" would love having a program to unlock the phones'
security codes! The FBI would get intense pressure to "share" such a
program, and sooner or later it would be shared. Sooner or later the
hackers would get their hands on such a program, and security would
be lost.
Agreed. Build the darned wall as was promised to Reagan in the '80's!
Cut all federal funding (our tax dollars) supporting the illegals.....many would just leave.
No need for another billions of dollars govt program to round up illegals...just deport them when they are found by local LE's.

Other than outrageous government regulations, the illegals are the greatest drain on our economy, and they are becoming
a serious threat to our security, almost as great as our present POTUS.

I'm going to side with Richard on this. In the profession of arms it could produce actionable intelligence and I like having all we can get. When you place yourself in the enemy category (foreign or domestic) you forfeit certain things. Hell, I gave up portions of my rights to guarantee yours. I'm a strict Constitutionalist and don't think this request is unreasonable. Open that phone and explore the rat trail. How else do you imagine this sort of work gets done?

Most certainly it does but the point is that someone always follows the rat trail and someone else is waiting for a call to swing the hammer. That's how this is done and is why we are successful. It's called social contract and your ancestors decided it was good for you and you'd likely agree if you had to go back to defending yourself on the reg as many others do or have elsewhere or at other times.

OK, if you saw the news tonight, there is a guy (don't remember his name or back ground but apparently well regarded) who claims he get the information from THAT phone and that phone alone. He will take the phone apart and using "whatever technologies" get the information............He guarantees it or he will eat his shoes on TV! This is seriously being contemplated by the FBI who desperately want that information.
Which his method, there will be no BACK DOOR !

All that needs to be done is make it a felony plus huge fines to employ an illegal alien.  Throw a bunch of these employers in with the general prison population and publicize the results.  If there is no work and no public assistance there will be no reason to come here.  Kind of like the warning shot theory, shoot the first one and that's warning to all the rest.