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Post by beans on Jul 17, 2015 17:11:36 GMT -5
Guys,
I bought some 22 Aguilia 20 gr low powered, quiet rounds for some chipmunk control. Shot a few and after 3-4 shots where I couldn't see where I was hitting, I stopped. Removed the bolt and looked down the rifle. PLUGGED with probably 3-5 of these bullets. For those that know, there is no powder in these, just a primer. So I probably wasn't in any real danger at this point.
I cannot BUDGE these slugs from the barrel. Used a 3/16" brass rod and a hammer and have gotten nowhere. This is a single shot old 22 rifle and the obsruction is about half way down the barrel. Any ideas on how to remove this obstruction?
Feeling very stupid!
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Post by Kyle on Jul 17, 2015 17:33:48 GMT -5
Try pouring Kroil down the bore let it soak, then the same from the breech. Then try the rod again. My best guess.
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Post by dannoboone on Jul 17, 2015 20:28:59 GMT -5
If the Kroil doesn't work, some say a better penetrating oil is a 50:50 mix of ATF and acetone gets in places where others cannot. Good luck.
My son uses a .25 Benjamin for his chippy control.
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Post by Hank on Jul 17, 2015 21:26:26 GMT -5
Beans..
I hate to bring bad news but I doubt that any penetrating oil will help you out at this point. If you only had one stuck bullet maybe, 3 to 5 probably not.. Once you hammered on them the top bullet swelled up tighter than seams on a submarine.. Lol...
I have removed a few stuck bullets in 45 caliber ML's but never a 22 caliber barrel but this is how I would do it if at my shop.. You will most likely need a lathe and a long (very long) drill bit.
First since your barrel is 22 caliber .216 approx bore you will need to make several sleeves. So lets say .210 OD x .187 ID. These sleeves will be approx 2 inches long. You will need enough sleeves to stack up in the barrel and reach the muzzle. Next you will need a very long 11/64 drill bit.. Most likely you won't be able to buy a bit long enough, so what I would do is chuck up a standard 11/64 jobber drill and bore a .125 hole in it with a carbide end mill so that I could solder a .125 rod in the bored hole.. Then drop the sleeves in the barrel, add some oil and then drill (slowly) a hole through the lead bullets. Once you have a hole in the bullets they will relax allowing you to then push them out.. They will still be tuff to push but they should move.
The sleeves keeps the drill and rod extension from marring up your rifling. Make the sleeves from aluminum or brass or even plastic rod would work.. Pretty much what ever you got laying around the shop
Let me know if you need help..
Jeff.
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Post by beans on Jul 18, 2015 4:49:06 GMT -5
Weill that takes my dumb a$$ out of the equation of removing them myself. LOL
To put this in perspective, this gun was given to me by a friend of mine a few years ago. It was his mothers first gun when she was a kid. Supposedly made in about 1937. The action screw was totally stripped so the gun will not stay together on it's own. It was completely rusted from many years of neglect. It's a single shot bolt gun. You have to pull the rear of the bolt back to cock it, No safety at all.
I used fine grit sandpaper and spent an afternoon sanding of all the rust and got down to bare metal. Then I hung it up outside and put 4 coats of black rustoleum in it. Then, I sanded the stock and re-stained it. No clear coats or anything.
After everything dried, I put the action/barrel into the stock, took (2) peices of gorilla tape and wrapped it as tight as I could. One wrap is back as far as possible and the other is as forward as possible. That's how the gun is held together. LOL
Still, I had not shot the gun yet. I took it to camp one weekend and set a target at 25 yds and proceeded to pour round after round of subsonic CCI's into on dime sized hole right in the bullseye. Then for the fun of it, I shot it at 100 yds at a pie plate and put 10 shots into a 3" group about 6" below the plate. All open sited. So the gun can shoot even though it's put together all wrong.
So for the past few years, this gun has been leaned up next to the shower in the bathroom with a bowl of CCI CB longs and shorts. I technically live in a village (you wouldn't know it if you were here) and it is illegal to shoot a firearm. However, we have had a serious chipmunck problem since I built our chicken coop off one side of my large shed. The outside pen area is about 10 x 20 feet and the chippys get in their by tunneling under the shed. It's about a 25 ft shot downward at a 45 degree angle from the bathroom window. Well, I ran out of CB longs/shorts (and haven't seen them anywhere for 2 years and NYS won't let you buy ammo over the net anymore) and the gun shop had some of these wimpy, primer only rounds.
So that how this whole fricken thing started. The gun was an ugly, cobbed together piece of junk to begin with. BUT it kills everything I shoot at and I am pissed that I have probably ruined it. LOL
There's my story. Oh, and then I tried these out of my ruger Mark II. Way too loud, would you believe? The Ruger 10/22 is just too much of a pain to load single shots and it's also scoped and sighted in for other ammo. Guess I should just go to walmart and buy a cheap bolt gun and try to find some CB Longs/shots.
Sorry if I bored you all with this long rant.
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Post by YankeeReb on Jul 18, 2015 13:32:31 GMT -5
At least you didn't spend much more than time on it. I was at a shooting match one time and an old timer there told me when he was a kid his dad bought him a new Winchester pump 22cal and when he was cleaning the bore he got a rag stuck in there. Anyway his brother came up with the bright idea of shooting it out lol. Well we all know what happened next the barrel bulged. That old man was still depressed about it sixty years latter. Imagine what that gun would be worth today.
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Post by Richard on Jul 23, 2015 20:28:57 GMT -5
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Post by Hank on Jul 23, 2015 20:51:26 GMT -5
Richard.... That's a good idea.. The worst thing that could happen is it don't work.. If it does, and I think it just might, a piece of 220 grit sandpaper and some black spray paint and Beans is back in business...
Jeff
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2015 23:49:44 GMT -5
Pulled a few round balls with a bullet puller..Should be able to rig up a puller with a screw and 22 cal cleaning rod. One at a time Zen
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Post by beans on Jul 24, 2015 5:06:06 GMT -5
Richard that is a brilliant idea. Like Hank said, some sandpaper & paint and bingo. Only question: If you could melt this and get it to move, would it "paste" itself all over the barrel area that wasn't hot as it tried to drip down the barrel, and be a bigger problem?
I gave this gun to a friend who has some shop tools for wood working. His idea was exactly the same as Hanks in terms of drilling it out with a smaller bit. He'll rig the bit into a long rod and drill thru it to relax the lead like Hank said. Then go from there.
I do like your idea Richard.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2015 8:15:00 GMT -5
Richard that is a brilliant idea. Like Hank said, some sandpaper & paint and bingo. Only question: If you could melt this and get it to move, would it "paste" itself all over the barrel area that wasn't hot as it tried to drip down the barrel, and be a bigger problem? I gave this gun to a friend who has some shop tools for wood working. His idea was exactly the same as Hanks in terms of drilling it out with a smaller bit. He'll rig the bit into a long rod and drill thru it to relax the lead like Hank said. Then go from there. I do like your idea Richard. Richard's idea was the same as what I would think would work....If you had a another person that could hammer a ramrod as the other would work the torch down the barrel until its clear....That's got to work imo...good luck with it....
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