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Post by isaiah on May 20, 2023 15:12:50 GMT -5
This is probably an easy question for all the guys loading the smokeless muzzleloaders but I'm learning as I go. My question has to do with light powder charges for low recoil shooting. What is considered to light of a load . I got great advise from Dennis about my powder columb and I know I have to make sure my bullet is high enough into my barrel. I'm shooting 43 grn. imr 4227 and 275 gr bullet .I'd like to tame it down even more. How far can I drop the powder charge if I follow the advise from Dennis?
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Post by klook on May 21, 2023 19:57:17 GMT -5
That depends on your measured chamber. Every powder is different. Best way to lighten the recoil is lighten the bullet.
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Post by lbahunter on May 21, 2023 20:18:00 GMT -5
This is probably an easy question for all the guys loading the smokeless muzzleloaders but I'm learning as I go. My question has to do with light powder charges for low recoil shooting. What is considered to light of a load . I got great advise from Dennis about my powder columb and I know I have to make sure my bullet is high enough into my barrel. I'm shooting 43 grn. imr 4227 and 275 gr bullet .I'd like to tame it down even more. How far can I drop the powder charge if I follow the advise from Dennis? Is 43 gr. of IMR 4227 powder the minimum amount that fills your powder chamber? You could drop down to a lower bullet weight. |
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Post by hillbill on May 21, 2023 20:38:49 GMT -5
A 225 Accumax .402 in a light blue harvester in front of mid 50s 4198 should do the trick.
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Post by buckeye68 on May 21, 2023 20:48:25 GMT -5
This is probably an easy question for all the guys loading the smokeless muzzleloaders but I'm learning as I go. My question has to do with light powder charges for low recoil shooting. What is considered to light of a load . I got great advise from Dennis about my powder columb and I know I have to make sure my bullet is high enough into my barrel. I'm shooting 43 grn. imr 4227 and 275 gr bullet .I'd like to tame it down even more. How far can I drop the powder charge if I follow the advise from Dennis? If your happy with the guns performance, then I change or add a few thing to help tame felt recoil. Change out the factory muzzle break to one of Jeff’s tactical muzzle break. Added weight to the forearm and butt stock and put a big fat heavy scope on top of it. Change out the factory recoil pad to a Kick-Eez grind to fit 1 3/8” magnum recoil pad. |
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Post by claymanjack on May 22, 2023 7:39:02 GMT -5
one of my tricks is to install a recoil reducer in the stock
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Post by lbahunter on May 22, 2023 8:53:18 GMT -5
A 225 Accumax .402 in a light blue harvester in front of mid 50s 4198 should do the trick. and try it with the 43gr of 4227. |
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Post by isaiah on May 22, 2023 14:55:45 GMT -5
This is probably an easy question for all the guys loading the smokeless muzzleloaders but I'm learning as I go. My question has to do with light powder charges for low recoil shooting. What is considered to light of a load . I got great advise from Dennis about my powder columb and I know I have to make sure my bullet is high enough into my barrel. I'm shooting 43 grn. imr 4227 and 275 gr bullet .I'd like to tame it down even more. How far can I drop the powder charge if I follow the advise from Dennis? Is 43 gr. of IMR 4227 powder the minimum amount that fills your powder chamber? You could drop down to a lower bullet weight. Yes 43 is the lowest I can go with IMR .I'll try your suggestions thanks. |
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Post by isaiah on May 22, 2023 15:46:40 GMT -5
This is probably an easy question for all the guys loading the smokeless muzzleloaders but I'm learning as I go. My question has to do with light powder charges for low recoil shooting. What is considered to light of a load . I got great advise from Dennis about my powder columb and I know I have to make sure my bullet is high enough into my barrel. I'm shooting 43 grn. imr 4227 and 275 gr bullet .I'd like to tame it down even more. How far can I drop the powder charge if I follow the advise from Dennis? If your happy with the guns performance, then I change or add a few thing to help tame felt recoil. Change out the factory muzzle break to one of Jeff’s tactical muzzle break. Added weight to the forearm and butt stock and put a big fat heavy scope on top of it. Change out the factory recoil pad to a Kick-Eez grind to fit 1 3/8” magnum recoil pad. Sounds great 👍, I'll look into the kick ez recoil pad . Thanks for the advise. |
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Post by booner22 on Jun 2, 2023 21:42:32 GMT -5
This is probably an easy question for all the guys loading the smokeless muzzleloaders but I'm learning as I go. My question has to do with light powder charges for low recoil shooting. What is considered to light of a load . I got great advise from Dennis about my powder columb and I know I have to make sure my bullet is high enough into my barrel. I'm shooting 43 grn. imr 4227 and 275 gr bullet .I'd like to tame it down even more. How far can I drop the powder charge if I follow the advise from Dennis? I have had good luck shooting the 200gr sst with 4227. I have shot it with all the way down to 20 gr with acceptable accuracy from my scout. |
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Post by buckeye68 on Jun 2, 2023 23:41:18 GMT -5
This is probably an easy question for all the guys loading the smokeless muzzleloaders but I'm learning as I go. My question has to do with light powder charges for low recoil shooting. What is considered to light of a load . I got great advice from Dennis about my powder columb and I know I have to make sure my bullet is high enough into my barrel. I'm shooting 43 grn. imr 4227 and 275 gr bullet .I'd like to tame it down even more. How far can I drop the powder charge if I follow the advice from Dennis? I have had good luck shooting the 200gr sst with 4227. I have shot it with all the way down to 20 gr with acceptable accuracy from my scout. You may want to add that your gun does not have a powder chamber for safety reasons. |
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Post by SURESHOT on Jun 3, 2023 10:47:25 GMT -5
A slip on recoil pad has worked wonders with recoil, I purchased two a large and medinum. I was working on a couple CVA blue/black 45 cal ML with no brake, 65 grains 4198 275 pittman. It was a thumper!!! the pads worked great.... You may have to adjust eye relief on scope,,,
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Post by lbahunter on Jun 3, 2023 20:55:44 GMT -5
This is probably an easy question for all the guys loading the smokeless muzzleloaders but I'm learning as I go. My question has to do with light powder charges for low recoil shooting. What is considered to light of a load . I got great advise from Dennis about my powder columb and I know I have to make sure my bullet is high enough into my barrel. I'm shooting 43 grn. imr 4227 and 275 gr bullet .I'd like to tame it down even more. How far can I drop the powder charge if I follow the advise from Dennis? I have had good luck shooting the 200gr sst with 4227. I have shot it with all the way down to 20 gr with acceptable accuracy from my scout. What breech plug you have in your Scout? |
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Post by booner22 on Jun 4, 2023 7:11:47 GMT -5
I have had good luck shooting the 200gr sst with 4227. I have shot it with all the way down to 20 gr with acceptable accuracy from my scout. What breech plug you have in your Scout? Asg plug, yes this is a youth gun so did not want a powder chamber. My |
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Post by buckeye68 on Jun 4, 2023 8:33:08 GMT -5
Hanks Precision Gun Parts sell a direct replacement for the ASG plug so that you can run the DIS ignition system modules in your rifle that was built using the ASG Gen2 plug system. The plug is long than the standard HIS plug and takes up more area of the original 45/70 case/powder chamber.
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Post by lbahunter on Jun 5, 2023 13:41:33 GMT -5
What breech plug you have in your Scout? Asg plug, yes this is a youth gun so did not want a powder chamber. My I guess my Scout is a youth gun,then 🙂. I have the longer DI plug installed in my Scout. |
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Post by lbahunter on Jun 5, 2023 13:49:28 GMT -5
Hanks Precision Gun Parts sell a direct replacement for the ASG plug so that you can run the DIS ignition system modules in your rifle that was built using the ASG Gen2 plug system. The plug is long than the standard HIS plug and takes up more area of the original 45/70 case/powder chamber. Yep. You are correct. That's the plug that I have installed in my Scout. |
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Post by lbahunter on Jun 5, 2023 14:32:52 GMT -5
What breech plug you have in your Scout? Asg plug, yes this is a youth gun so did not want a powder chamber. My How long is that plug with the module? Does your plug have the bushing or is it recessed? My plug is 1.905 with the bolt in the plug. I still have a very small powder chamber. |
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