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Post by olegburn on Apr 1, 2023 13:30:47 GMT -5
For those using Hanks smooth bullet sizing die: Whats the largest and smallest diameter bullets you able to resize? Did not see the particulars on his website Is it possible to go from .458 to .452?
How about .453 to .450?
Not familiar with the product and like to know its capability before spending money
Thanks!
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Post by hillbill on Apr 1, 2023 14:22:02 GMT -5
I'm not sure a .458 bullet would even go in it even completely loose. If you could and it was a tipped bullet the tip would likely dislodge, thats a lot of metal to displace.
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Post by kodiak on Apr 1, 2023 18:16:11 GMT -5
I believe the slug that comes with the die to reset it to orginal setting is a 452 size.
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Post by YankeeReb on Apr 8, 2023 15:57:56 GMT -5
I resize my cast .458 bullets down the to .4532 in one step but jacketed you might need a 454 sizing die first. The brass expander ball that comes with the die is .453
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Post by hillbill on Apr 8, 2023 17:02:26 GMT -5
Most of us size .452 bullets for a .450-.451 bore, smooth dies are not designed to take a bullet down more than .002, .453 bullets? kind of an oddball size?
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Post by Sideshow on Apr 9, 2023 8:11:12 GMT -5
Most of us size .452 bullets for a .450-.451 bore, smooth dies are not designed to take a bullet down more than .002, .453 bullets? kind of an oddball size? Hillbill i supose this amount holds true for the 40 smooth size die as well ?? I figured we may as well cover all the bases on this topic ....
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Post by ballistic on Apr 9, 2023 9:23:53 GMT -5
Gents I might be wrong - but I’ve done a lot of full sizing w a .416 -not with a .45 or a .40 cal. Wouldn’t a bullet that’s .458 in diameter need a drop (piece) of your barrel and full sizing ? I don’t think you could force a jacketed .458 bullet through the smooth sized die at .451. I use a big 50 bmg press with Lyman Alox - and some of the 416 bullets take an awful lot of force to get through. The lands and grooves pave an easement for the bullet so to speak. Just a guess - but about 30% of the bullets surface from the 6 lands are sized to the smaller size (.008 bump) and the other 70% of the .416 bullet is sized to .4155 so only .0005 bump. Any thoughts ?
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Post by hillbill on Apr 9, 2023 11:34:55 GMT -5
Yes .458s must be full sized in a .458-.450 bore and yes you must have a barrel drop incorporated die to do so, even at that as ballistic said they are a chore to get through the die.
Can a .458 bullet be sized down to .451? possibly but with a tipped bullet you would likely push the tip out, with a non tipped bullet you are still displacing a lot of metal and it would take a multi die approach to do so.
I use a Redding Ultra Mag press to full size with and it takes a good bit of force even at that.
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Post by olegburn on Apr 14, 2023 10:49:41 GMT -5
I have CVA Hunter in 45-70 converted to ML and currently hunt with saboted 195 gr Barnes I have yet to play with bore sized bullets .451 bullets are too loose and .452 are too tight For hunting those solid Barnes go thru deer like you won't believe and I probably should stick with the load But my supply is running low and I'm considering going with land riders Gas checked hard cast bullets also in the consideration. But their sizing is all over the place That is the post purpose to see the adjustment range Flattop in other posts describes how he paper patches bullets also Paper patching seems requires bullet size to the groove diameter which appear to be just hair smaller than .451 That will require squizzing bullits to almost .450 Can Hanks smooth die do that reliably?
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Post by lakeplainshunter on Apr 14, 2023 17:18:55 GMT -5
Have you tried the Barnes 250 gr or 290 gr TEZs with a knurl? Based on how you described your barrel, it sounds like they should work. The 250 gr TEZ is readily available online.
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Post by YankeeReb on Apr 14, 2023 20:00:02 GMT -5
Most of us size .452 bullets for a .450-.451 bore, smooth dies are not designed to take a bullet down more than .002, .453 bullets? kind of an oddball size? My barrel is a od ball size. A couple of ten thousands of a inch over.453 at the lands. I can size my .458 cast bullets with Hanks adjustable die in one pass because I cast them out of old lead pipe that is dead soft lead. I size .458 jacketed bullets down to.454 with a lee .454 fixed die and the rest of the way with Hanks die.
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Post by olegburn on Apr 15, 2023 0:05:56 GMT -5
Have you tried the Barnes 250 gr or 290 gr TEZs with a knurl? Based on how you described your barrel, it sounds like they should work. The 250 gr TEZ is readily available online. I have tried but could not achieve tight enough fit Without knurl they fall down the bbl Maybe I should try paper patching them?
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Post by Sideshow on Apr 17, 2023 15:54:14 GMT -5
Have you tried the Barnes 250 gr or 290 gr TEZs with a knurl? Based on how you described your barrel, it sounds like they should work. The 250 gr TEZ is readily available online. I have tried but could not achieve tight enough fit Without knurl they fall down the bbl Maybe I should try paper patching them? Personally i wouldnt paper patch unless theyre lead . Look into a adjustable knurling tool for a lathe . I paid $20 for mine a couple years ago . A flat fine file , put the bullet on there and use the tools mounting stem as a handle and roll the bullet back and forth . Easy As Pie !!! Just use a good caliper to get in the ballpark and if needed smooth size then . Works good for me .
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Post by olegburn on Apr 20, 2023 23:15:41 GMT -5
I do not own a lathe and do not plan on getting one. Same as boat. Or Rainbow vacuum cleaner You all should take it easy giving me all these ideas. I will spend time, money, sweat and all for 1 shot to kill a whitetail come ML season.
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Post by Sideshow on Apr 21, 2023 1:30:55 GMT -5
I do not own a lathe and do not plan on getting one. Same as boat. Or Rainbow vacuum cleaner You all should take it easy giving me all these ideas. I will spend time, money, sweat and all for 1 shot to kill a whitetail come ML season. Olegburn....the tool i described isnt a lathe....?? Its a tool For a lathe But hand held its Great for knurling bullets . Very Easy to use and you Wont tear up your hands either as with files . File knurling Sucks to do . Yes we do ALOT of crazy just to eat deer.....
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Post by olegburn on Apr 21, 2023 10:33:16 GMT -5
Do you happen to have a link to it or brand, model number?
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Post by Sideshow on Apr 21, 2023 20:22:31 GMT -5
Do you happen to have a link to it or brand, model number? Look up Grizzly industrial under lathe tools - knurling tools . You want one that is adjustable for bullet diameter so it will ride correctly upon a bullet . The file then under that bullet is just for traction . Theres a pic in a older thread that Sew put up for me . I dont recall which one . Shop around . Grizzly tends to be pricey . The one i have was purchased locally but everybody seems to carry it . Wouldnt be without it now either . Love mine .
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