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Post by jeffgra on Mar 25, 2023 19:09:45 GMT -5
Does anybody have a good starting and stopping load using reloder7 with a 225gr bullet in a sabot? The gun is a cva scout 45/70 conversion with a Hankins DI plug. I have looked at some pressure traces but all were with 209 plugs. Is reloder7 safe to reduce by 10% going from a 209 load to DI? Thanks
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Post by jeffgra on Mar 25, 2023 20:27:49 GMT -5
Thanks Dennis.
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Post by GMB54-120 on Mar 30, 2023 10:45:33 GMT -5
60gr is a good place to start with a 225gr in a sabot. 63gr was the sweet spot for my old SavPac 45 with a 200gr.
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Post by jeffgra on Mar 30, 2023 14:04:21 GMT -5
60gr is a good place to start with a 225gr in a sabot. 63gr was the sweet spot for my old SavPac 45 with a 200gr. Do you remember what speeds you were getting? |
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Post by rlp10ml on Mar 30, 2023 14:37:15 GMT -5
With my old Remmy 700ML .45 cal. Pac Nor, my load with the 195 Barnes with Reloader 7 at 71 grains powder and a Fed. 209A primer was right @ 2800fps. Extremely accurate and never blew a Sabot.
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Post by james72 on Apr 2, 2023 9:17:08 GMT -5
Reloader 7 is the most sabot friendly powder I ever used when using sabots. You should be able to load 60-65gr, maybe more with that light of bullet, of reloader 7 with no issues with DI. Harvester light blue sabots would be my choice. Dennis can you explain what you mean by most sabot friendly powder. For example why would Reloader 7 be better than 4198 when shooting sabots? Also what is your favorite bullet when shooting sabots out of the CVA Scout? |
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Post by GMB54-120 on Apr 3, 2023 11:56:13 GMT -5
60gr is a good place to start with a 225gr in a sabot. 63gr was the sweet spot for my old SavPac 45 with a 200gr. Do you remember what speeds you were getting? About 2650-2700fps with a 200gr. 27" Pacnor 1-22 and 209 plug. I tell you though, i doubt using a heavier bullet even a 240gr would loose any speed vs the 200gr bullet. Both Re7 and 4198 dont make squat for peak pressure with a 200gr sabot. Several guys on the boards have reported getting as much or more fps when they went from the 200gr SST to something like a 240gr Fury using the same amount of powder.
As mentioned its super sabot friendly too. Its a very easy powder to use for a lot of 45 and 50cal sabot applications. Easy to ignite and fairly temp stable. Its just a bit dirty compared to single base powders. Not a fan of it for sabotless 45 vs 4198 or N120.
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Post by jeffgra on Apr 3, 2023 18:49:00 GMT -5
Do you remember what speeds you were getting? About 2650-2700fps with a 200gr. 27" Pacnor 1-22 and 209 plug. I tell you though, i doubt using a heavier bullet even a 240gr would loose any speed vs the 200gr bullet. Both Re7 and 4198 dont make squat for peak pressure with a 200gr sabot. Several guys on the boards have reported getting as much or more fps when they went from the 200gr SST to something like a 240gr Fury using the same amount of powder.
As mentioned its super sabot friendly too. Its a very easy powder to use for a lot of 45 and 50cal sabot applications. Easy to ignite and fairly temp stable. Its just a bit dirty compared to single base powders. Not a fan of it for sabotless 45 vs 4198 or N120.
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Post by jeffgra on Apr 3, 2023 18:57:51 GMT -5
Thanks for the info. I’m just trying to find a lighter recoiling load for kids that still has a little speed. If there is such a thing?
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Post by lbahunter on Apr 6, 2023 21:18:24 GMT -5
Thanks for the info. I’m just trying to find a lighter recoiling load for kids that still has a little speed. If there is such a thing? Yes, there is such a thing. My gun is setup to do it. I have the longer Hankins DI plug in my gun. With the longer plug, I can use faster powders like N110. |
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Post by kbrezlin on Apr 7, 2023 5:53:36 GMT -5
32 grains N110 with the harvester light blue and a 200 grain bullet. When I went up to 35 grains I needed a wool wad under to protect the sabot. Both loads in my 45 pacnor 10MLII gr,eat accuracy with very little recoil and 2500ish speed.
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Post by jeffgra on Apr 7, 2023 18:09:16 GMT -5
Thanks again!! I do have some n110 and 200xtp to try. I just need to check my chamber with the n110. How many grains are you using ibahunter?
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Post by booner22 on Apr 7, 2023 23:56:47 GMT -5
Thanks for the info. I’m just trying to find a lighter recoiling load for kids that still has a little speed. If there is such a thing? I have shot both 4198 n110 4227 as youth loads in a Cva. I have no powder chamber though. 50gr of 4198 and a 275gr bullet had a mv of 2200 fps. 250gr bullet and 30 gr of 4227 is right at 1800 fps. |
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Post by lbahunter on Apr 9, 2023 12:40:00 GMT -5
Thanks again!! I do have some n110 and 200xtp to try. I just need to check my chamber with the n110. How many grains are you using ibahunter? 30gr to around 38gr. As you go up in grains you may need to add a Eastern Maine wool wad to protect the sabot. I usually stay around 33 to 35gr. Also l put a light knurl on the bullet. |
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Post by YankeeReb on Apr 16, 2023 13:14:16 GMT -5
Another super sabot friendly powder and easy to ignite is imr4759. It’s much cleaner burning than reloader 7. If you have a chamber 42gr of imr4759 should take up the same space of 56gr imr4198.
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Post by Richard on Apr 16, 2023 18:33:03 GMT -5
As far as I know, 4759 was discontinued around 2019.
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Post by YankeeReb on Apr 17, 2023 7:05:26 GMT -5
They did, I just thought I would share my information for those that have a supply of it like me. They stopped making it once before and started making it again due to popular demand. let’s hope they do it again.
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Post by thumbhole on May 1, 2023 19:07:04 GMT -5
72 grains of Reloader#7 with a Pittman 225 grain.40 cal Accumax and a Harvester light blue sabot along with a Federal 209 primer. That load runs 2675 fps. in a 25" McGowan bbl.
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