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Post by damnyankee1975 on Dec 26, 2022 21:13:05 GMT -5
I shot two very large does this evening and i couldnt have asked for better performance from my equipment. I brought the deer home to field dress and on the first doe perfectly placed shot behind the shoulder i found a little bit more of a mess than i wanted. I shoot the 275gr Pittman Accumax with 65gr I4198. Both deer were bang flops! If I switched to the 250grHC would damage decrease? the 275gr load performs so well in my rifle i would hate to change anything at all. I agree with Hanks philosophy on head shots 100 and in and may take that position. Hanks rifles shoot great and Kyles bullets are excellent just wanna not tear em up so bad. Thoughts?
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Post by klook on Dec 26, 2022 21:55:27 GMT -5
I am still experimenting but I have to wait for the season to do it. I reduced my load to 56 gr of I4198 and a 250 SST this last season and had great results out to 130 yds. I have Kyle's bullets left over from last year and will try them out next year perhaps. Mine are the 253HC. Last year with 65 grs. of I4198 and Kyle's bullets I tenderized em, at the same ranges. I have purchased some .40 Lehigh's at 195 gr? and .40 Hornady 200 gr. XTP's also. Still have a bunch of other .45 cal to try as well. I need a shooting range....
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Post by jeepeater on Dec 26, 2022 23:10:04 GMT -5
This goes back to the “perfect bullet” discussion. There is no such thing as a perfect bullet. You got bang flops because 100% of the energy was transferred. The hard core bullets should shoot just as well as the soft core. They may not damage quite as much meat, but at the velocity we’re pushing them, they’ll still do a lot of damage. I’ll take that damage over a hole punched through every single time. I’ve loaded pretty much every type of bullet out there, and had the opportunity to test them shooting deer and hogs with a depredation permit. I’ve taken more animals than I care to count to help “save crops”, but I learned a lot about what different bullets do under different circumstances. I’ll take a good cup and core bullet any day over the solids, or bonded for that matter. On deer sized game I don’t even like the partition type bullets.
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Post by hillbill on Dec 27, 2022 4:50:07 GMT -5
I shot two very large does this evening and i couldnt have asked for better performance from my equipment. I brought the deer home to field dress and on the first doe perfectly placed shot behind the shoulder i found a little bit more of a mess than i wanted. I shoot the 275gr Pittman Accumax with 65gr I4198. Both deer were bang flops! If I switched to the 250grHC would damage decrease? the 275gr load performs so well in my rifle i would hate to change anything at all. I agree with Hanks philosophy on head shots 100 and in and may take that position. Hanks rifles shoot great and Kyles bullets are excellent just wanna not tear em up so bad. Thoughts? If you want less damage go to the 278 HC, it should shoot the same, might size differently due to the harder lead but typically the lighter bullet with the same frontal area will frag worse than the heavier one, (less bullet density).
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Post by damnyankee1975 on Dec 27, 2022 19:16:23 GMT -5
Makes sense to me Bill. I was thinking less mass would be better but the bullet will be traveling faster. I'll have to get with Kyle and round up some hardcores. Thanks again!
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Post by tar12 on Jan 15, 2023 5:32:22 GMT -5
What speeds are you seeing with this combo? Any thought to backing off of the powder charge? You have any desire to go the copper route?
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