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Post by sew on Nov 9, 2022 8:56:14 GMT -5
I started with this program years ago when it was on a disc. Used it for 223, 243, 270 and 300 Win Mag. It was incredible and made finding the nodes easy. By putting in the actual, once fired case capacities (often 5-10% greater than published/used in loading manuals) , I came up with much hotter and more accurate loads than what was in any of my loading manuals.
With smokeless MLers, I took and take a simpler approach than some of the more experienced users on this board and just massage the cartridge length and seating depth to get actual bullet travel length and adjust the case capacity to get 100% loading volume for the powder weight I want to try. Bullet friction of 0.4 (smooth sizing) and have left it there for full sizing but think I might need to remove this .
By using this program, a user can very closely obtain the pressure of any proposed load. The actual peak pressure , I suspect, is lower than calculated, but the duration of the fairly high pressure is longer, IMO. IOWs, the actual pressure calculated is higher (IMO) than actual but the velocity may actually be a little higher since the pressure is sustained a little longer.
For those with a 40 cal and wanting to experiment with powders and bullet weights, Quick Load is virtually invaluable.
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Post by sew on Nov 9, 2022 9:14:37 GMT -5
A second very important factor in working up loads is pressure. Proper pressure for a given powder is very important. A good reduced load isn’t just less of the same powder in many cases.
Fouling and temperature sensitivity generally raise their ugly heads when the pressure falls below certain levels. For my 10ML2/45s, I went for 38-42K (VV110, H4198, VV120), for my 10ML2/40, 42-45+ and my modern 40s, lite gun -42-50 and 50+/- in the heavy.
Pressure in necessary and is good. More may very well be better. Historically, from Savage’s philosophy/mind set, maximum desired pressures of 32-35K, came from what would happen with double loads. This resulted in abnormally low, pressure starved loads. Many, if not most, higher performing CF cartridge loads are in the pressure loading of 50-65K. A QL calculated 50K in a MLer is likely less. Operating in these optimal, though still at the lower edge of the powder design pressure, helps with faster obturation, much less fouling, less temperature sensitivity and greater accuracy.
Quick Load is the easiest, actually the only way I know to get good , predictable loads. Pressure Trace would be a long, tedious process in trying to acheive the same.
For 40 users, QL is very helpful.
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Post by nick50471 on Nov 18, 2022 15:16:59 GMT -5
You can manipulate QL to simulate chambers in a 40 very easily. This brings the pressure and velocity much closer.
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Post by sew on Nov 19, 2022 7:21:57 GMT -5
Nick, You’ve educated me quite well concerning suppressors, quick attachments and suppressors/MBs. Now, my bank account is well over $1,000 less than it was. I’ll give you a little time to recover from giving all of this information. Then, now that I’ve been using QL again for about a year since your last attempt at explaining the nuances of using QL in a more sophisticated way for MLers than I have been using it, I’ll call again and let you make another attempt at teaching me. Thank you for all your help, past and future, Steve
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Post by nick50471 on Nov 19, 2022 21:35:43 GMT -5
You have my number
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