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Post by YankeeReb on Oct 28, 2022 8:29:59 GMT -5
I loaded a 243 speer 90gr soft point over 42 gr of h4350 and shot a big prickle pig head on in the shoulder and it blew a big hole and the heart was exposed and still intact and beating away. It seems like the bullet exploded into dust. I read reviews saying they were great for deer but I wouldn’t recommend them.
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Post by YankeeReb on Oct 29, 2022 12:16:42 GMT -5
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Post by joelmoney on Oct 29, 2022 15:11:34 GMT -5
The shot angle on animal and contact velocity would all be factors if I use a particular. The blowing a head off a smaller animal is the result of high velocity contact. I’ve done that to a raccoon with a .416 REM and a 325 X bullet. A 338RUM and a 250gr partition is pretty dramatic also. Better off shooting a some 1 gallon jugs lined up to see depth of penetration.
If you are shooting small deer and wait for a broadside and bullet is placed behind shoulder I don’t see the bullet not working. I know many hunters have had great success with a 243. I personally don’t like it’s performance on deer.
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Post by YankeeReb on Oct 29, 2022 18:13:08 GMT -5
 I didn’t blow it’s head off it was tucked under eating my clover I planted for deer and that pissed 😤 me off so I shot his arse. I agree with you a broad side shot and maybe a longer distance it might work ok.
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Post by YankeeReb on Oct 30, 2022 17:21:11 GMT -5
I forgot to mention it was a head on shot but I couldn’t see his head. He was eating my new grass and clover all the way down to the soil.
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Post by joelmoney on Oct 30, 2022 20:01:05 GMT -5
Did the bullet come out?
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Post by YankeeReb on Oct 31, 2022 15:16:27 GMT -5
It didn’t, that surprised me. It was over 42gr of h4350 So it was going fast. Shot was about fifty yards.
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Post by joelmoney on Oct 31, 2022 22:58:06 GMT -5
I’d have concerns about using that bullet. Probably collapse lungs quickly but a marginal hit would be very hard to find.
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Post by fatfred on Nov 1, 2022 5:14:50 GMT -5
Bullet threads bring out the full spectrum of opinions. I have a .243 but have only killed 3 deer. All 3 were very dead and all went up to 50 yds after being hit. All broadside archery angles. Load was a 80 gr GMX, factory load. All pass thru's. I agree with the above statements on this angle. Any reasonable medium-heavy soft point would be fine. I chose the GMX that year (2012) because I wanted an "any angle" load since I cannot choose the presentation I might be given and need to be able to shoot when the window of opportunity presents itself. It's nice to wait for the perfect shot but sometimes that doesn't happen and you need to go thru some armor to get to the engine. For me, it's copper, copper, copper as long as I can make 'em shoot. My opinion on that changes when you back off on velocity. 30-30's, 35 rems, .458 SOCOM etc, etc can all get thru armor with traditional soft point when the grain weight is in the upper end of "normal". Remove 1000 fps from average bottle neck centerfires, and bullet behaviors changes. All the examples I just listed also have 2-3 times the weight/mass of the load you used.
To answer the question? Yes I would but I would feel like I needed to be careful. As a sidenote, a guy at camp has been killing a lot of deer over last 10 years with his 243 using 85 gr hollow tip game kings. Never lost one and never has had an issue where he has questioned his bullet.
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Post by klook on Feb 26, 2023 19:09:08 GMT -5
I had some experience with a .250 Savage years ago and 90 gr HPBT Sierra's. I believe if one is a sniper, and the game is not close so the velocity drops below light speed, and the shot angle is correct, they can kill deer. For my money, even though I am a small caliber fan, nothing less then 100 grs. is adequate for deer sized game. The bullets are not constructed for that job.
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Post by 71yella2 on Mar 4, 2023 9:06:57 GMT -5
Last season my neighbor could only find Sig 80g copper elites locally for his 243. Box says 3400fps! He shot 2 does @75yds never found either.after he told me about it I loaded him some 95sst over 42g of I4350 and he's killed 2 since and couldn't wait to tell me about it. He gave me the remaining Sig rounds. On paper they should be good but the nose seems "clogged" with copper. I'm thinking they didn't expand at all. I've killed a few with the 100g Hornady sp and all had exits.
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Post by YankeeReb on Mar 10, 2023 12:00:20 GMT -5
I had some experience with a .250 Savage years ago and 90 gr HPBT Sierra's. I believe if one is a sniper, and the game is not close so the velocity drops below light speed, and the shot angle is correct, they can kill deer. For my money, even though I am a small caliber fan, nothing less then 100 grs. is adequate for deer sized game. The bullets are not constructed for that job. Light speed along with being too close was my problem so now I’ll load on 100gr bullets in a 243 but maybe an exception for a barnes.
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Post by YankeeReb on Mar 10, 2023 12:03:47 GMT -5
Last season my neighbor could only find Sig 80g copper elites locally for his 243. Box says 3400fps! He shot 2 does @75yds never found either.after he told me about it I loaded him some 95sst over 42g of I4350 and he's killed 2 since and couldn't wait to tell me about it. He gave me the remaining Sig rounds. On paper they should be good but the nose seems "clogged" with copper. I'm thinking they didn't expand at all. I've killed a few with the 100g Hornady sp and all had exits. I think some of the all copper small caliber bullets just pencil through without expanding unless they hit a large bone.
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