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Post by hatchetjack1 on Oct 21, 2022 5:10:22 GMT -5
NM State Game Commission Bans Scopes on Muzzleloaders - New Mexico Wildlife Federation - New Mexico Wildlife Federation
By BEN NEARY NMWF Conservation Director Starting next year, New Mexico hunters who take to the field in designated muzzleloader seasons will no longer be able to use scope sights on their guns, the state game commission voted Friday. The New Mexico State Game Commission also voted on Friday to...
nmwildlife.org nmwildlife.org
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Post by hillbill on Oct 22, 2022 8:49:11 GMT -5
Sounds like they want more animals gut shot?
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Post by dannoboone on Oct 22, 2022 12:39:06 GMT -5
If I didn't know better (perhaps I do not), it's as though most governments from city to fed have signs such as this:  |
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Post by gd357 on Oct 22, 2022 15:06:45 GMT -5
This is what happens when imbeciles are allowed to affect hunting regs.
It would be a real trick to see a politician do ANYTHING constructive.
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Post by hatchetjack1 on Oct 23, 2022 5:42:04 GMT -5
Feel bad for the guys or gals who might have booked a muzzy hunt a year or two in advance and never saw this regs change coming.
Wonder if any more western states will be going this way.
I plan on burning some Colorado elk preference points next year on a muzzy hunt. No scopes, no sabots, no pellets, no smokeless powder. However, I knew those regs going in. That is why I have been prepping for this hunt for 2 years. Peeps sights, Swiss powder and lots of big chunks of lead punching paper at the range to get ready.
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Post by Richard on Oct 23, 2022 17:58:43 GMT -5
Look at it this way...........over the past 20 years we have re-written the book on muzzle loaders. They are not what muzzle loaders used to be. For all intents and purposes, we are RIFLE hunting during muzzle loading season....or, what used to be called muzzle loading. So maybe they have a legitimate point?
If they want heard reduction then allowing scopes and smokeless would be the the way to go. If, they want to give you an extra week or two in the woods with a challenge, then go with "traditional" muzzle loading. I have no dog in this discussion, just pointing out some facts.
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Post by GMB54-120 on Oct 26, 2022 9:59:26 GMT -5
Ive heard several people in Colorado that hunt in NM because NM has more animals to hunt. Oddly Colorado has used the stricter regs for ages and look how well that is working for them.  Micro management of a zone/s is a far better way to handle things than macro managing the entire state. |
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Post by fatfred on Oct 26, 2022 11:25:54 GMT -5
I have no horse in the race but if I lived there, I may have to forgo the season since my eyes are bad enough that I have a very hard time with open sights. Even with glasses that let me see the sights better, the target is very blurry. It's rare to see regs that have evolved into more modern arms over time, go backwards. It would be like taking xbows away after allowing them for a while. Kinda rare.
I am all for following the letter of game laws but I bet some will get detachable rings, shoot and just stuff the scope in the pack. My Savage has them and you can take the scope off and put it on over and over again and it holds zero very well. Not advocating that just saying some people would probably do this.
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Post by Richard on Oct 26, 2022 19:08:49 GMT -5
Yep! More than one way to skin a cat!
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Post by gd357 on Oct 27, 2022 15:55:35 GMT -5
I can't speak for season length out there, but back before I started hunting with a muzzleloader, Ohio shortened the season from 10 or 15 days (I don't recall exactly) down to 4 days per year.  If we couldn't use scoped muzzleloaders, I'd be really pissed. Equipment improvements have certainly stretched out the range that muzzleloaders can shoot, but they're still loaded from the front end. It seems that these days we don't have the time that was afforded to generations before. We've simply replaced the extra time (and to an extent skill) with technology. I'd rather have the time, but lacking that, being efficient during hunting season is important. The biggest issue I have with these kinds of laws is simple: this is several politicians who have no experience with the subject matter forcing their ignorance on their constituents. So much for intelligent thought and freedom... |
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Post by hatchetjack1 on Oct 30, 2022 7:15:02 GMT -5
I can't speak for season length out there, but back before I started hunting with a muzzleloader, Ohio shortened the season from 10 or 15 days (I don't recall exactly) down to 4 days per year. If we couldn't use scoped muzzleloaders, I'd be really pissed. Equipment improvements have certainly stretched out the range that muzzleloaders can shoot, but they're still loaded from the front end. It seems that these days we don't have the time that was afforded to generations before. We've simply replaced the extra time (and to an extent skill) with technology. I'd rather have the time, but lacking that, being efficient during hunting season is important. The biggest issue I have with these kinds of laws is simple: this is several politicians who have no experience with the subject matter forcing their ignorance on their constituents. So much for intelligent thought and freedom... Yep, Ohio certainly is a state that you don't get a whole lot time to sling lead and copper. I think they fancy themselves as a bowhunting state like Iowa. 9 days total of gun, and only 4 days of muzzleloader. I wish they would expand the muzzleloader season as well and make some of it a wee bit earlier. We have seen a fair amount of bucks that have already shed their horns that late in the ML season. We are heading there Nov 4th to bowhunt for 5 days.(I already did my early voting. ) If not successful, try and get a few weekend bowhunts in after that. We will see how it goes. Who knows.... Might be back in the late smokepole season as well. |
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Post by YankeeReb on Oct 31, 2022 14:41:19 GMT -5
It seems like they are discriminating against older people who usually don’t see or get around as well as younger people.
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Micro management of a zone/s is a far better way to handle things than macro managing the entire state.
If we couldn't use scoped muzzleloaders, I'd be really pissed.