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Post by spikes on Dec 17, 2022 10:17:16 GMT -5
awesome buck bill!
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Post by jimbob on Dec 17, 2022 10:36:58 GMT -5
Jeff and I had a good year for KY late muzzleloader season. This was our last day to hunt before I had to head back to work. We harvested 4 deer this evening. I shot a doe with Loud Mouth at 115 yards, bang flop with a 275 Pittman @ 2450 FPS. I also shot a doe with Cyclops at 425 yards, bang flop with a 353 HC Pittman @ 3900 FPS. Jeff shot 2 does with Cyclops at 500 yards and 832 yards with a 353 HC Pittman @ 3900 FPS. international baby namesYou guys been wackin and stakin all week Congratulations
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Post by jimbob on Dec 17, 2022 10:37:59 GMT -5
This thug decided to tempt Rehab tonight He didn’t fare well
So I went over to feed horses before dark and decided since I had the rehab gun in the truck That I would sit and watch to see what shows with intentions of popping a fat nanny, I only had 15 minutes of legal light left.
Some does came out but in a location I couldn't shoot, I looked into another field and this guy was trying to fill his stomach. About 250 yds or so and the parts guns scores again, not a Tn monster but a decent deer for my location.
Nice one Bill Congratulations
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Post by Chad on Dec 17, 2022 12:45:27 GMT -5
That’s some nice deer. Good job guys!
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Post by buckeye68 on Dec 19, 2022 11:03:15 GMT -5
Dennis's nephew Andy shot a very nice Tennessee 12pt buck with a inside spread of 18 1/2” this morning at 9:30. When I originally seen the picture with him hold the deer I didn’t think it was that big but Andy is a very big man. The second picture give you a better idea how nice the deer really is especially for the area we hunt in. Andy had his buck aged, turns out he’s 5 1/2 years old.
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Post by shindig on Dec 19, 2022 13:52:13 GMT -5
Very Nice Buck
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Post by Hank on Dec 19, 2022 16:42:12 GMT -5
Here are a few other deer that was shot with Cyclops last week during the late KY. muzzle loading season. One was at 707 yards and one was at 712 IIRC. Theres nothing like to power of Cyclops, shooting 350 grainers at over 3900 FPS, when that bullet hits it is unbelievable. We did do some videoing and I will try to get it edited asap, but with the Christmas season among us it may be a while before I get to it. I want to thank Mark Clemons for coming down and hunting with me, operating the video equipment and most of all for all the dragging he had to do.
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Post by ballistic on Dec 19, 2022 18:19:35 GMT -5
Here are a few other deer that was shot with Cyclops last week during the late KY. muzzle loading season. One was at 707 yards and one was at 712 IIRC. Theres nothing like to power of Cyclops, shooting 350 grainers at over 3900 FPS, when that bullet hits it is unbelievable. We did do some videoing and I will try to get it edited asap, but with the Christmas season among us it may be a while before I get to it. I want to thank Mark Clemons for coming down and hunting with me, operating the video equipment and most of all for all the dragging he had to do. I would just like to point out that your impact speeds at 700 yards is faster than most shoot at the muzzle. Amazing muzzy and performance. Did we just go from football sized holes to basketball season ? That’s a big hole !!!!! And great shooting as well.
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Post by mike on Dec 19, 2022 21:08:57 GMT -5
No tracking required.
Seriously, is the bullet passing through or exploding? If exploding, is it exploding on impact or after it enters? If the shot's vector is broadside through the mid-chest or low-chest, are the backstraps, tenderloins, hams and front shoulders still good? I've read here that exploding bullets leave tiny bits of copper and lead contaminating the remaining meat. Me personally, I've never seen any abnormal damage from the Hornady 250 FTX bullets I shoot out of my CVA Apex with HIS and 65 grains of 4198 (2620 fps). I have yet to have a shot opportunity with my big gun launching 328 Pittman with 105 grains of 4895 (2900 fps). While my gun is nowhere near Cyclops speed, I am still a bit apprehensive. When the time comes, I intend to wait for a completely broadside shot, hope a deer cooperates. haha
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Post by blackpowder72 on Dec 19, 2022 22:15:45 GMT -5
Here are a few other deer that was shot with Cyclops last week during the late KY. muzzle loading season. One was at 707 yards and one was at 712 IIRC. Theres nothing like to power of Cyclops, shooting 350 grainers at over 3900 FPS, when that bullet hits it is unbelievable. We did do some videoing and I will try to get it edited asap, but with the Christmas season among us it may be a while before I get to it. I want to thank Mark Clemons for coming down and hunting with me, operating the video equipment and most of all for all the dragging he had to do. No tracking required!
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Post by Hank on Dec 20, 2022 8:40:11 GMT -5
No tracking required. Seriously, is the bullet passing through or exploding? If exploding, is it exploding on impact or after it enters? If the shot's vector is broadside through the mid-chest or low-chest, are the backstraps, tenderloins, hams and front shoulders still good? I've read here that exploding bullets leave tiny bits of copper and lead contaminating the remaining meat. Me personally, I've never seen any abnormal damage from the Hornady 250 FTX bullets I shoot out of my CVA Apex with HIS and 65 grains of 4198 (2620 fps). I have yet to have a shot opportunity with my big gun launching 328 Pittman with 105 grains of 4895 (2900 fps). While my gun is nowhere near Cyclops speed, I am still a bit apprehensive. When the time comes, I intend to wait for a completely broadside shot, hope a deer cooperates. haha Mark and I shot 9 deer in 4 days. All these deer were shot at a broadside view, and we got 18 totally good back straps and hind quarters. Some may disagree with me here, but that is really all the meat on a deer worth messing with. So, I do not care if I blow up the front half. Now I have seen deer shot high and the back straps were lost, but that’s hunting and not every situation turns out perfect. When these bullets hit a deer at the speeds I am shooting they basically vaporize, and explode. At long range I will get a pass through (sometimes) at closer range I will not get pass throughs.
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Post by deadeer on Dec 20, 2022 9:02:50 GMT -5
No tracking required. Seriously, is the bullet passing through or exploding? If exploding, is it exploding on impact or after it enters? If the shot's vector is broadside through the mid-chest or low-chest, are the backstraps, tenderloins, hams and front shoulders still good? I've read here that exploding bullets leave tiny bits of copper and lead contaminating the remaining meat. Me personally, I've never seen any abnormal damage from the Hornady 250 FTX bullets I shoot out of my CVA Apex with HIS and 65 grains of 4198 (2620 fps). I have yet to have a shot opportunity with my big gun launching 328 Pittman with 105 grains of 4895 (2900 fps). While my gun is nowhere near Cyclops speed, I am still a bit apprehensive. When the time comes, I intend to wait for a completely broadside shot, hope a deer cooperates. haha Mark and I shot 9 deer in 4 days. All these deer were shot at a broadside view, and we got 18 totally good back straps and hind quarters. Some may disagree with me here, but that is really all the meat on a deer worth messing with. So, I do not care if I blow up the front half. Now I have seen deer shot high and the back straps were lost, but that’s hunting and not every situation turns out perfect. When these bullets hit a deer at the speeds I am shooting they basically vaporize, and explode. At long range I will get a pass through (sometimes) at closer range I will not get pass throughs. Amen on meat yield. I've butchered our deer for years, and typically figure about 30% clean meat. I know guys that take them in and expect 60-70% return. I'm not eating that meat.
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Post by chromeslayer on Dec 21, 2022 21:05:44 GMT -5
Couple more freezer queens for the pile
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Post by ballistic on Dec 22, 2022 11:12:15 GMT -5
No tracking required. Seriously, is the bullet passing through or exploding? If exploding, is it exploding on impact or after it enters? If the shot's vector is broadside through the mid-chest or low-chest, are the backstraps, tenderloins, hams and front shoulders still good? I've read here that exploding bullets leave tiny bits of copper and lead contaminating the remaining meat. Me personally, I've never seen any abnormal damage from the Hornady 250 FTX bullets I shoot out of my CVA Apex with HIS and 65 grains of 4198 (2620 fps). I have yet to have a shot opportunity with my big gun launching 328 Pittman with 105 grains of 4895 (2900 fps). While my gun is nowhere near Cyclops speed, I am still a bit apprehensive. When the time comes, I intend to wait for a completely broadside shot, hope a deer cooperates. haha Mark and I shot 9 deer in 4 days. All these deer were shot at a broadside view, and we got 18 totally good back straps and hind quarters. Some may disagree with me here, but that is really all the meat on a deer worth messing with. So, I do not care if I blow up the front half. Now I have seen deer shot high and the back straps were lost, but that’s hunting and not every situation turns out perfect. When these bullets hit a deer at the speeds I am shooting they basically vaporize, and explode. At long range I will get a pass through (sometimes) at closer range I will not get pass throughs. For elk ( similar but less damage - my speeds are closer to 3000) the same has applied to Jeff’s statement. And this is shooting 325 aeromax in .45 and .40. Some Meat is lost on front shoulders. I get what I can ( sometimes all of it-sometimes loose a lot). I will make up for what I loose by taking neck and brisket- which is easier to grind into hamburger. The bottom sections of even the hind quarters are full of ligaments and tendons that I don’t consider of much use. I get more (bull elk) or equal (cow elk) amounts of meat off the neck and brisket than the front shoulders anyway - which many a hunter doesn’t touch. If you don’t believe me - take a fillet blade and try it. With deer it’s been the same -just haven’t shot any for several years with a muzzy. JMO “A big heavy pitman aeromax hole -even hit poorly is a dead (and harvested) animal. I can’t say the same for pencil through (other bullets) hits.” Haven’t lost an elk yet- and I will add- an elk is harder to bring down than a mule deer. Maybe white tail is tougher - I haven’t shot one yet? Others won’t agree and I’m ok with it. Aeromax (heavy) is my favorite bullet for elk and that includes all of my centerfire rifles and ammo combos. “I like big holes” - this could be taken the wrong way -LOL !
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Post by sew on Dec 22, 2022 12:32:32 GMT -5
I don’t think there is a wrong answer to which philosophy of bullet and velocity a person subscribes. Certainly the heavy, fast bullet does not allow for any suffering of the animal. Every animal I’ve shot with a slower monolithic bullet had died either right there or within 10 secs (except for my last kill).
Since I hunt comparatively short range, the lighter monolithic bullets and moderate speeds are what I choose. If I could hunt beyond 300-400 yards, I’d likely be shooting faster, heavier loads. With hunting both close and far, the heavy, fast loads will certainly do the job.
I pay for processing and donate virtually all my deer meat to the church where I go that runs 3 drug rehabilitation facilities with about 150 total people in them. They want all hamburger. So, for me, the 253 Hammer/2730 minimizes any meat loss as do my TruGlo and Slick Trick broadheads.
It’s “ what floats your boat”, IMO.
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Post by Deputy819 on Dec 22, 2022 16:06:45 GMT -5
JeffdeadeerNo argument from me on ‘meat yield’……100% agree. 👍
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Post by spikes on Dec 22, 2022 17:07:58 GMT -5
No tracking required. Seriously, is the bullet passing through or exploding? If exploding, is it exploding on impact or after it enters? If the shot's vector is broadside through the mid-chest or low-chest, are the backstraps, tenderloins, hams and front shoulders still good? I've read here that exploding bullets leave tiny bits of copper and lead contaminating the remaining meat. Me personally, I've never seen any abnormal damage from the Hornady 250 FTX bullets I shoot out of my CVA Apex with HIS and 65 grains of 4198 (2620 fps). I have yet to have a shot opportunity with my big gun launching 328 Pittman with 105 grains of 4895 (2900 fps). While my gun is nowhere near Cyclops speed, I am still a bit apprehensive. When the time comes, I intend to wait for a completely broadside shot, hope a deer cooperates. haha Mark and I shot 9 deer in 4 days. All these deer were shot at a broadside view, and we got 18 totally good back straps and hind quarters. Some may disagree with me here, but that is really all the meat on a deer worth messing with. So, I do not care if I blow up the front half. Now I have seen deer shot high and the back straps were lost, but that’s hunting and not every situation turns out perfect. When these bullets hit a deer at the speeds I am shooting they basically vaporize, and explode. At long range I will get a pass through (sometimes) at closer range I will not get pass throughs. I definitely agree. I learned this after my first year deciding to process them all myself. It was hours of extra work for maybe a few more pounds for the grinder. We use the tenderloin, backstrap and 2 hind quarters and the dogs get the rest. Saves a crap load on dog food.
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Post by gd357 on Dec 23, 2022 14:31:41 GMT -5
Got the euro mount back yesterday! Quick turnaround, and great job. For those who asked, scored him at 145".
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Post by mike on Dec 23, 2022 17:52:32 GMT -5
Now that there is a super cool rack! Crazy 145! Thanks for following up with the photo and score.
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Post by spikes on Dec 25, 2022 10:04:21 GMT -5
Got the euro mount back yesterday! Quick turnaround, and great job. For those who asked, scored him at 145". Holy crap thats an awesome deer!
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