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CZ 457
Oct 13, 2022 20:33:15 GMT -5
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Post by Richard on Oct 13, 2022 20:33:15 GMT -5
Killough's in Texas has a load of Tenex in stock now. $19.50/box
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CZ 457
Oct 16, 2022 13:43:05 GMT -5
Post by mike on Oct 16, 2022 13:43:05 GMT -5
Killough's in Texas has a load of Tenex in stock now. $19.50/box Thank you very much for the heads-up, Richard. I ordered a number of boxes of Tenex from two different lot numbers that were about 10 fps different. The price was the best I have seen for this top-end ammo. I do not compete so I've never shot such expensive .22 lr ammo before. This will be interesting to see what difference it makes compared to the Eley Sport and Federal Gold-Medal Match (and a bunch of other stuff) I've been shooting with my Kimber 22. I'll give you my results after I get to the range. Thanks again, sir! Best regards, Mike
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CZ 457
Oct 18, 2022 17:54:50 GMT -5
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Post by Richard on Oct 18, 2022 17:54:50 GMT -5
Mike... Don't count out the Eley (black box) match which generally runs around the $15 range. It will, very often- depending on lot, shoot as good or better than Tenax. Keep an eye on Killough's web site. They usually will get in large amounts in various lots just like you saw the Tenex.
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CZ 457
Oct 20, 2022 11:54:20 GMT -5
Post by mike on Oct 20, 2022 11:54:20 GMT -5
Mike... Don't count out the Eley (black box) match which generally runs around the $15 range. It will, very often- depending on lot, shoot as good or better than Tenax. Keep an eye on Killough's web site. They usually will get in large amounts in various lots just like you saw the Tenex. Thanks again, Richard. Yes, I have registered my e-mail address with Killough's to keep an eye on what they have to offer. And I saw they too offer a load-development service to identify the best Eley ammo lot for a specific barreled-action, same as offered by the Lapua and Eley technical centers. I guess with the lack of availability and ever escalating prices of center-fire ammo and reloading components, rim-fire may be where shooting enthusiasts will end up. If I ever decide to compete or just shoot single-hole groups (haha, I'm not that good a marksman), it'll give me a perfectly good excuse to buy a new .22 rifle and send the barreled action to one of the ammo companies' technical centers for ammo-lot matching. Take care, Mike
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CZ 457
Oct 20, 2022 17:12:57 GMT -5
Post by mike on Oct 20, 2022 17:12:57 GMT -5
Speak-of-the-devil, Richard, received a product alert from Killough via e-mail today, Eley Match in stock at $15.50/box! While I've already received the ten boxes of Tenex, I decided to splurge and ordered ten boxes of Match from two different lot numbers. I'm just shootin-from-the-hip when selecting lot number/fps lots. I have read how finicky .22's can be and know I have to learn what my barrel likes, but just thought I should ask if there is any more scientific way for me to begin? I've picked lots with fps's of 1070, 1060, 1055 and 1050. Just waiting now for a calm day to visit the range. Fall is a windy place out here on the flat dirt plains of extreme northern Illinois. Thanks again for advising me of Killough Shooting Sports.
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CZ 457
Oct 28, 2022 20:43:21 GMT -5
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Post by Richard on Oct 28, 2022 20:43:21 GMT -5
Mike...check out Pursuit of Accuracy on You Tube. Josh Thomas just did a video on Killough's lot testing ammo with his CZ and Voodoo rifles.
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CZ 457
Oct 29, 2022 7:09:16 GMT -5
Post by hillbill on Oct 29, 2022 7:09:16 GMT -5
I'm about to go down the ammo lot chase trail before long, I have a Voodoo I traded for a while back, it came with a KRG chassis stock which I stuck a MZ in for the time being. I have a Manners carbon fiber stock I want to put it in but I first need to acquire a bottom metal and send the stock and have it cut for it. My intent is to make a hunting rig out of it. It has one of their lighter profile barrels and would make the perfect squirrel rig.
my intentions are to take it to the Lapua test center and have it lot tested sometime next summer, maybe I will get lucky and find a good lot for it.
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CZ 457
Oct 29, 2022 11:07:59 GMT -5
Post by mike on Oct 29, 2022 11:07:59 GMT -5
Mike...check out Pursuit of Accuracy on You Tube. Josh Thomas just did a video on Killough's lot testing ammo with his CZ and Voodoo rifles. Haha, yes, Richard, I watch Josh all the time! I have learned a great deal watching videos he has produced as well as four or five other guys who are experts in the .22lr game. So interesting to learn how different one has to approach accuracy/load development for this very finicky caliber. Much easier to dial-in my center-fire hand-loads to their respective barrels. OK, I commented to you that I would report on my findings after locating some good match-quality ammo. Mother Nature made me believe she was going to relax Thursday and offer a low-wind day at the range............nope. No sooner than my morning arrival and prepping to shoot, the sneaky wind began to tickle the air. And by the time I began launching little tiny 40gr bullets, the consistently inconsistent breezes took control of them and I could not determine much about how well my squirrel rifle likes the different lots of super expensive ammo. When Mother Nature gave up brief moments of her respiratory-pause, my little Kimber showed some potential brilliance shooting a couple .2's, several .3's, some .4's and a bunch of wind-blown groups. I was clearly able to determine that on the whole, the Eley Tenex, Eley Match and Wolf Extreme Match shot significantly more accurately than the CCI standard velocity that so many on the internet say shoots very good for a standard production ammo. I will comment, in defense of my generally crappy groups, while I'm no expert marksman, I suspect every one of the 250 rounds I shot would have potentially resulted in severe head-aches for the squirrels. haha I'm anxious to get back to the range, but will have to wait for a dead calm day which doesn't happen too dang often this time of year out on the flat dirt plains of extreme north-central Illinois. I got a bunch more super expensive ammo to shoot. haha I'm beginning to think that my entire strategy is to shoot poorly enough to determine the unsuitability of my Kimber squirrel gun and thus convince myself that I must order up one of those fancy Vudoo guns like hillbill has! Then I can also visit the Lapua technical center and have them determine in their windless tube what ammo-lots shoot best and buy a case of it. Do I need any of this? Nope, just want it. haha
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Post by hillbill on Oct 29, 2022 21:00:11 GMT -5
I just happened into this gun, hopefully it will shoot well, time will tell. Ordered bottom metal and a 5 round mag today, OUCH! a five round mag is 94 bucks, the bottom metal upwards of 200, expensive pea shooters these are.
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CZ 457
Oct 30, 2022 8:41:49 GMT -5
Post by mike on Oct 30, 2022 8:41:49 GMT -5
I just happened into this gun, hopefully it will shoot well, time will tell. Ordered bottom metal and a 5 round mag today, OUCH! a five round mag is 94 bucks, the bottom metal upwards of 200, expensive pea shooters these are. Yes sir, hillbill, they certainly are, but sounds like almost every person who competes swears these are the most accurate, consistent and reliable match-grade rifle made. Anyone can have one........... after a minimum six month lead-time and almost $4,000 payment. Do I need one to shoot squirrels? No. Do I want one? Yes. But thankfully the cost of entry is going to hold me back. haha Let us know how your little Vudoo shoots when you get her all rigged.
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CZ 457
Nov 1, 2022 21:57:53 GMT -5
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Post by Richard on Nov 1, 2022 21:57:53 GMT -5
My CZ with the Lilja barrel will shoot right alongside with some of the Voodo's at my club. No fancy chassis stock, just the factory wood stock that I bedded. It is shooting .500" and under five shot groups at 100 yards consistently. Most in the .4 range (under ideal conditions of course).
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CZ 457
Nov 2, 2022 9:17:21 GMT -5
Post by mike on Nov 2, 2022 9:17:21 GMT -5
My CZ with the Lilja barrel will shoot right alongside with some of the Voodo's at my club. No fancy chassis stock, just the factory wood stock that I bedded. It is shooting .500" and under five shot groups at 100 yards consistently. Most in the .4 range (under ideal conditions of course). I have read the same from many .22 shooters, Richard, buy any CZ 457 and strap on a Lilja barrel to make yourself a competition able gun. In the .22lr game seems it's all about the barrel and ammo. They write that the CZ barrels are very good, but if one desires small groups at 100 yards and beyond, a precision barrel, Lilja and Bartlein, is a must to hold the groups together. Just repeating what I've learned through reading and watching the experts on YouTube. I'm gonna get back to the range with my Kimber squirrel gun and the variety of super expensive ammo, on a day with ZERO wind. That will be the opportunity to learn if I need to get myself a new .22. haha
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CZ 457
Nov 2, 2022 15:09:27 GMT -5
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Post by Richard on Nov 2, 2022 15:09:27 GMT -5
I was at the range yesterday morning at 6:30 a.m. (as usual) but we had too much fog (no wind) and could not see the 100 yard targets until well after 9 a.m.. By the time I got done doing ammo testing on a new Hart barreled .223 and got to shooting the CZ, the wind started picking up. I was shooting a "lot" of Eley match 1058 fps. I shot nine five shot groups and one 9 shot group (.8")(one fouler out of the box of 50) The five shot groups ranged from the low .4's into the .7's. Even under good conditions, the 1058 lot has not shot the best. Kind of why I got rid of the las box I had! But even so, it was "squirrel good!" All my shooting lately has been off of a 6-9" Harris fixed bi-pod with rear bag. Seems the older I get, the more I like not carrying that heavy front rest and, my groups have been just about as good as when using the rest! Have fun!
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Post by fatfred on Feb 25, 2023 18:12:37 GMT -5
Been watching this thread. At 55 yrs old, I have never owned a bolt action .22 LR. If you knew how many guns I have owned it would seem unbelievable. Today I ordered the CZ 457 American in .22 LR from my local gun shop. I fondled the same gun in .22 mag and it is old world grade beautiful. This gun will be for target shooting and sniping things needing sniping. It will get scoped with something average power and hopefully find a nice simple fine crosshair. Recommendations welcome. Scope budget $300 ish. I have a huge assortment of 22's but none of them are match grade. I have several brands of std 40 gr stuff. I have several low velocity rounds. SSS Aquilla 60 gr included. Might be hard to stabilize? Stingers, yellow jackets, CCI velocitors, mini mags, and others. Does anyone have common factory ammo that they recommend? Hoping mini mags shoot good cause I have the most of those.
Wood stocks and blued barrels are nice. Hope it come in soon.
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Post by fatfred on Mar 3, 2023 5:56:05 GMT -5
Picked up the gun last night and some Warne rings. Now just need a scope. What a beautiful rifle.
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Post by fatfred on Mar 11, 2023 5:41:43 GMT -5
Ended up buying a Vortex Crossfire 6 x 18. Should be here tomorrow Fedex. Hopefully some rounds down range in the next few weeks depending on weather
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CZ 457
Mar 12, 2023 21:09:59 GMT -5
Post by fatfred on Mar 12, 2023 21:09:59 GMT -5
Scope came today. I like it so far. Seems clear and focuses well. The Warne medium rings are slightly too low and the 44 mil objective is kissing the barrel. Will switch out to the "high" rings, hopefully tomorrow. Any tips regarding this gun would be appreciated. Such as the torque on the action screws. I've shot a lot of 22's in my life but never owned a bolt gun and never tried to really make a 22 shoot. One thing I noticed (and I do not have the match chamber) is that any round I chamber shows rifling marks on the very front of the bullet nose where it becomes full caliber. The bullets are slightly being jammed into the rifling. Is that a problem? I do not see this on my ruger 10-22.
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