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Post by Yankee Bill on Jan 2, 2016 22:05:00 GMT -5
I've never knurled bullets before and was wondering if when knurling the 195 Barnes for use with sabots (HLBS), would they only require just a light enough knurling to better engage the sabot, or, is a deep knurl required.
Or, is the amount on knurl imparted dependent upon the tightness / looseness of each particular bbl.?
This would be for use in an Apex w/ a Bergara bbl. if that is of any relevance.
Thanks,
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Post by jims on Jan 2, 2016 22:13:23 GMT -5
I knurl my 195 Barnes as I find them slightly smaller than my Hornady 200 SSTs. This is with the Harvestor light blue sabots. I am not quite sure if I need to do this but do feel I get better engagement on the sabot. I do not have your barrel combo but have used this in Douglas, PacNor, Brux, McGowen barrels with accuracy and success. I actually press fairly heavily on the file but I am not a weight lifter either.
I would say if one had a loose or tight barrel that could make some difference. My McGowen is the loosest of my barrels but they all work. I notice more difference when shooting sabotless. The sabot being plastic and soft seems to fill the void/differences in various barrels more than the harder copper sabotless. Just my experiences.
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Post by Yankee Bill on Jan 2, 2016 22:22:58 GMT -5
Thanks jims. Appreciate the info. My gun is currently with Jeff getting a conversion and I still have to locate some Barnes, so it will be a bit before I can try them in the bore.
YB
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Post by kbrezlin on Jan 3, 2016 8:55:42 GMT -5
I am shooting the 200 SST out of a Pacnor 10ML2 conversion with HLB sabots. I put a light knurl on them just to give them some more GRAB to the sabot just like jims said. I am getting super accuracy at 100 yards with 60 grains of IMR4198 under 1/2 inch. I am thinking of getting some barnes and will do the same thing with them.
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Post by jims on Jan 3, 2016 10:35:32 GMT -5
As regards the Barnes vs.the 200 SSTs. Both are quite good in the accuracy department but the SSTs slightly better in my rifles. Both are proven deer takers, maybe ever so slightly to the Barnes but I would not hesitate to use either with confidence.
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Post by Yankee Bill on Jan 3, 2016 14:28:30 GMT -5
Appreciate all the very helpful info guys. As jims and I had discussed in some of our previous posts,
my use of these bullets (or any I choose for that matter) will be for short range woods hunting (<150 yds.) and more typically at bow hunting ranges. So I'm looking for a bullet that will not be too explosive at these ranges, that's the main reason I'm looking at the solid copper 195 Barnes, but I'm not totally ruling out the 200 gr. SST either.
Also, a major issue I will have concerning load development is the lack of access / limited amount of range time I have available to me. So I need to kinda have my ducks somewhat in a row before I head to the range. My primary range is located on a WMA 1.5 hrs. away, it is free but only open from Sept. - March.
We do have another range about 30 min. away but they charge $15.00 per hour to shoot @ 100 yds.. Kind of expensive when watching your barrel cool while shooting sabots. And If I wanted to shoot @ 200 yds. there, I would have to buy a membership which was around $400 a year, last time I checked .. no thanks! It used to only cost $12.00 a day to shoot there until some Yuppies bought it a couple of years ago and run all of the hunters / casual shooters out. Now they cater to the Navy Seals and Black Gun crowd who don't bat an eye about their prices. Very sad to see this happen to say the least.
Sorry for the rant ... just had to vent with people who understand .. LOL!
Thanks,
YB
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