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Post by iweetodid on Jul 28, 2021 15:22:30 GMT -5
If I where to buy an adapter to turn my shotgun into a muzzleloader, would I be able to use smokeless powder in it?
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Post by jims on Jul 28, 2021 19:07:50 GMT -5
I think my father had something like that for a Mossberg 500 but it was for pyrodex etc.
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Post by encore50a on Jul 28, 2021 19:13:33 GMT -5
NO.
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Post by buckeye68 on Jul 28, 2021 19:38:43 GMT -5
I ran into a guy about 10 years ago in the woods that had a converted break action shot gun during muzzleloading season. All I remember it was for BP.
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Post by buckeye68 on Jul 28, 2021 19:42:40 GMT -5
If I where to buy an adapter to turn my shotgun into a muzzleloader, would I be able to use smokeless powder in it? I guess the big question would be why would you want to convert a shot gun over to a smokeless muzzlerloader when you can buy a CVA V-2 that already converted from Jeff. Much more steel in the barrel on a Scott than any shot gun barrel.
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Post by joelmoney on Jul 28, 2021 20:44:55 GMT -5
I have seen where someone took a .458 barrel and machined it to fit inside a 12ga or 10ga single shot. The person was a machinist and I don’t think they thought it would be economical just something they wanted to do. Break action shotgun receivers I don’t believe are as strong as rifle frames. I do remember the 500 conversations thinking I was looking at one around 2005. They were BP substitute guns.
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Post by iweetodid on Jul 28, 2021 21:52:27 GMT -5
Ok understood but if shotguns are loaded with smokeless and you did not exceed the pressure limits, it should work using shot load datta or magnum slug datta.
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Post by buckeye68 on Jul 28, 2021 22:24:20 GMT -5
A 12 ga shot gun with a 3 1/2 shell has a max pressure of 14,000 PSI. Our smokeless loads are three times that limit and more.
PIPE BOMB............
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Post by iweetodid on Jul 28, 2021 22:55:44 GMT -5
A 12 ga shot gun with a 3 1/2 shell has a max pressure of 14,000 PSI. Our smokeless loads are three times that limit and more. PIPE BOMB............ Did you happen to read what I said? Because I would be using a shotgun I would only be using shotgun datta.
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Post by hillbill on Jul 29, 2021 3:48:47 GMT -5
An exercise in futility IMO
Can it be done? yes but for what reason? you would still have to use shotgun powder in it. shotgun barrels are thin and not designed to hold high pressure.
An adapter? Go buy a shotgun shell and be happy. Help us to understand the reasoning and the use?
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Post by buckeye68 on Jul 29, 2021 4:31:46 GMT -5
A 12 ga shot gun with a 3 1/2 shell has a max pressure of 14,000 PSI. Our smokeless loads are three times that limit and more. PIPE BOMB............ Did you happen to read what I said? Because I would be using a shotgun I would only be using shotgun datta. Sure did. Build it and enjoy.........
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Post by encore50a on Jul 29, 2021 6:37:21 GMT -5
A 12 ga shot gun with a 3 1/2 shell has a max pressure of 14,000 PSI. Our smokeless loads are three times that limit and more. PIPE BOMB............ Did you happen to read what I said? Because I would be using a shotgun I would only be using shotgun datta. Actually you've asked this same question on other forums and received the same answers. I'm suggesting that you reread the answers again on those sites too.
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Post by iweetodid on Jul 29, 2021 11:12:06 GMT -5
Did you happen to read what I said? Because I would be using a shotgun I would only be using shotgun datta. Actually you've asked this same question on other forums and received the same answers. I'm suggesting that you reread the answers again on those sites too. That's funny, I was trying to find answers from different folks but it seems that you are the same people here at hanks as well so it really doesn't matter does it?
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Post by iweetodid on Jul 29, 2021 11:16:55 GMT -5
An exercise in futility IMO Can it be done? yes but for what reason? you would still have to use shotgun powder in it. shotgun barrels are thin and not designed to hold high pressure. An adapter? Go buy a shotgun shell and be happy. Help us to understand the reasoning and the use? The reason for it was that it is for sale. Why not and be safe. Have you ever paid the price for some of these smokeless rifles? If so then you know what I'm talking about. If I don't need it and the shot gun adapter is available for a fraction of the price, why not. You don't have to dumb and load it to the rifle datta. Another reason, because I can. I like to be different. I like something new. I don't like expensive smokey dirty powder. For example, BH209 here were I live is 85 to 95 dollars for 10 ounces?
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Post by encore50a on Jul 29, 2021 11:20:56 GMT -5
Actually you've asked this same question on other forums and received the same answers. I'm suggesting that you reread the answers again on those sites too. That's funny, I was trying to find answers from different folks but it seems that you are the same people here at hanks as well so it really doesn't matter does it? The answers haven't changed............. Do as you will.......
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Post by iweetodid on Jul 29, 2021 11:27:19 GMT -5
Did you happen to read what I said? Because I would be using a shotgun I would only be using shotgun datta. Sure did. Build it and enjoy......... Thank you buckeye68 for your permission to go ahead. I didn't think I asked but if you give me your blessing , then it should be OK.
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Post by fatfred on Jul 29, 2021 16:34:30 GMT -5
I think that doing something "just because you can" or being "different" isn't a bad thing. I would just say you should know what you are getting into. Probably the best thing you could do, if possible, is just ask the manufacturer what they think. Then after they tell you the same thing everyone else is trying to tell you, you can make an apology post to those here and there trying to answer your question. OR, you can report that they agree you should use smokeless and write an "I told you so" post. I'm good with either option.
I find it interesting that this question gets asked on a forum with very educated members. Many of who are gunsmiths and guru's of the industry. It seems that unless someone agrees with you, you will persist in sarcasmm and disdain for them.
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Post by iweetodid on Jul 29, 2021 17:43:50 GMT -5
I think that doing something "just because you can" or being "different" isn't a bad thing. I would just say you should know what you are getting into. Probably the best thing you could do, if possible, is just ask the manufacturer what they think. Then after they tell you the same thing everyone else is trying to tell you, you can make an apology post to those here and there trying to answer your question. OR, you can report that they agree you should use smokeless and write an "I told you so" post. I'm good with either option. I find it interesting that this question gets asked on a forum with very educated members. Many of who are gunsmiths and guru's of the industry. It seems that unless someone agrees with you, you will persist in sarcasmm and disdain for them. I don't look down my nose at anyone. I was asking and then debating. Not looking for frustration from you because I want solid answers. The pressure traces are good info that you seem to think I just dismissed but I took very seriously. It seems to me that when someone wants to know why, you just get mad at them stating they are being stubborn. You won't get an apology from me because I think there may be some kind of agenda her. LOOK, THANKS FOR ALL THE REPLIES, LET'S END IT HERE.
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Post by buckeye68 on Jul 29, 2021 18:28:10 GMT -5
Sure did. Build it and enjoy......... Thank you buckeye68 for your permission to go ahead. I didn't think I asked but if you give me your blessing , then it should be OK. You sure as heck don’t need my permission to build anything you want. Just don’t come on here and ask the same STUPID question that you’ve asked on all the boards and gotten the same response that you did not like and get all mad about it. If you like it than build it and enjoy it.
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Post by iweetodid on Jul 29, 2021 19:04:02 GMT -5
Thank you buckeye68 for your permission to go ahead. I didn't think I asked but if you give me your blessing , then it should be OK. You sure as heck don’t need my permission to build anything you want. Just don’t come on here and ask the same STUPID question that you’ve asked on all the boards and gotten the same response that you did not like and get all mad about it. If you like it than build it and enjoy it. HA, you claim that I am angry but I'm not. Just want real answers, not opinions. Thank you very much.
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