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Post by lbahunter on May 30, 2021 20:55:03 GMT -5
Has anyone had one converted? Which breech plug did you have installed? Barrel consistent from muzzle to breech?
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Post by booner22 on May 30, 2021 21:11:44 GMT -5
Has anyone had one converted? Which breech plug did you have installed? Barrel consistent from muzzle to breech? I just had one done, I haven’t had a chance to shoot it yet but have bullets sized and ready to go. Bore is consistent. I used an asg plug as it is a little longer and I don’t have and of the 45/70 chamber left to worry about powder column issues |
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Post by buckeye68 on May 30, 2021 22:55:09 GMT -5
Has anyone had one converted? Which breech plug did you have installed? Barrel consistent from muzzle to breech? I know a guy that has one and he put a DI plug in it. Barrel is consistent and it shoots very well. |
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Post by Hank on May 31, 2021 8:01:33 GMT -5
Has anyone had one converted? Which breech plug did you have installed? Barrel consistent from muzzle to breech? I just had one done, I haven’t had a chance to shoot it yet but have bullets sized and ready to go. Bore is consistent. I used an asg plug as it is a little longer and I don’t have and of the 45/70 chamber left to worry about powder column issues I have converted many of those rifles. It is the CVA Hunter, all CVA did was changed the name. The powder chamber is actually a good thing. |
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Post by GMB54-120 on May 31, 2021 9:54:33 GMT -5
Its very similar to the old Hunter but the action release is now the Scout style. |
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Post by booner22 on May 31, 2021 16:32:28 GMT -5
Its very similar to the old Hunter but the action release is now the Scout style. The only issue I have had vs the hunter is I am unable to remove the breechplug without breaking the rifle down. The rifle doesn’t open far enough to get it out for me. |
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Post by Richard on May 31, 2021 18:00:45 GMT -5
If its like the Scout that I had, you can insert a small screw driver under the extractor (between the bottom of the barrel where the extractor makes a 90* turn) and it will hold it down far enough that you can remove the plug.
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Post by lbahunter on May 31, 2021 18:24:44 GMT -5
Has anyone had one converted? Which breech plug did you have installed? Barrel consistent from muzzle to breech? I just had one done, I haven’t had a chance to shoot it yet but have bullets sized and ready to go. Bore is consistent. I used an asg plug as it is a little longer and I don’t have and of the 45/70 chamber left to worry about powder column issues Did you the breech plug that used the modules? |
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Post by blackpowder72 on May 31, 2021 18:52:31 GMT -5
I have one that I have not converted yet but for the most part it is identical to my stainless one minus the muzzle break. Trigger is the same on both guns . Planning on sending it to Jeff sometime to have it done for a spare .
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Post by 82mastertech on May 31, 2021 19:40:14 GMT -5
Its very similar to the old Hunter but the action release is now the Scout style. The only issue I have had vs the hunter is I am unable to remove the breechplug without breaking the rifle down. The rifle doesn’t open far enough to get it out for me. I took my roll pin out and glued the spring to the ejector. I can service it anytime. |
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Post by lbahunter on May 31, 2021 22:50:18 GMT -5
I was thinking of using this plug if I did one. I think it would be long enough to fill the existing chamber. I wouldn't have to worry about the powder column.
ASG Direct Replacement Plug with the Hankins DIS Ignition System (Direct Ignition System)
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Post by joelmoney on May 31, 2021 23:15:32 GMT -5
3 in our hunting party use CVA Hunters with Hanks DI plug. I worked up the loads for 2 of them and helped with the third. 1 gun has only shot 45 cal 275gr Accumax. Two have shot 45cal 325gr Aeromax and one of those is currently sighted in for 40cal 225gr Aeromax in Harvester sabots. We have a fourth member of the party trying to get a blued Scout this year. I am looking forward to playing with it. I might have to get the daughter one of these so I can get my Hunter back. I personally prefer the DI system for the hotter ignition.
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Post by Hank on Jun 1, 2021 7:07:08 GMT -5
I was thinking of using this plug if I did one. I think it would be long enough to fill the existing chamber. I wouldn't have to worry about the powder column. ASG Direct Replacement Plug with the Hankins DIS Ignition System (Direct Ignition System) The best plug for these rifles is the 9/16-24 break action plug. This plug was designed for these rifles. The left over powder chamber is actually a good thing. |
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Post by bluedog on Jun 1, 2021 8:03:59 GMT -5
Just for my interest and knowledge, why is the 'left over' powder chamber a good thing? I have one of these rifles with the DI plug, use 4198, and have had no problems, but there is a reported concern about the powder chamber if using a smaller volume of faster powder (N110 or 4759). It has been reported that it is possible for the bullet/sabot to partially enter into the powder chamber because the chamber is not completely filled with the faster powder. The result, also reported, is that a gas cutting action may occur that can ruin the barrel!
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Post by Sideshow on Jun 1, 2021 8:17:46 GMT -5
Just for my interest and knowledge, why is the 'left over' powder chamber a good thing? I have one of these rifles with the DI plug, use 4198, and have had no problems, but there is a reported concern about the powder chamber if using a smaller volume of faster powder (N110 or 4759). It has been reported that it is possible for the bullet/sabot to partially enter into the powder chamber because the chamber is not completely filled with the faster powder. The result, also reported, is that a gas cutting action may occur that can ruin the barrel! Id say Dont use those faster powders or lighter charges of 4198 that dont fill that chamber . You could end up with ALOT bigger problems than the gas cutting you Think Only would occur !!! Air pockets are Not Good - Ringed Barrel !!! Neither is getting that bullet part way in that chamber and have it obturate in there !!! Good way to Blow It Up id say ..... somebody isnt thinking at all ..... just sayin.... Those chambers should be full plus some !!! This chamber shortens the powder colum and gives more burn time in the barrel is their purpose . |
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Post by bluedog on Jun 1, 2021 11:26:06 GMT -5
That makes sense sideshow! I use 4198 powder and see no reason to use anything else. I was just wondering why the powder chamber was considered 'good' vs 'does not matter'.
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Post by Sideshow on Jun 1, 2021 11:40:30 GMT -5
That makes sense sideshow! I use 4198 powder and see no reason to use anything else. I was just wondering why the powder chamber was considered 'good' vs 'does not matter'. i figured id spill the beans on the dangers of what some are doing while i was at it . Always be safe . |
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Post by Hank on Jun 1, 2021 15:48:24 GMT -5
Like sideshow said. The left over chamber gives a little room for a powder column and shortens the powder stack, therefore making a more efficient powder burn. The fact that someone could use a fast burning powder and maybe push a bullet into the chamber is possible, anything is possible with these rifles and I would hope people will do their research and be smart enough not to use loads that are un proven. Also I would hope, people that are smart enough to develop a load is also smart enough to think about the volume the powder will take up in the barrel, perhaps check it and see just where the bullet stops once seated on the "said" powder charge. Common sense goes a long way when shooting these muzzle loaders.
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Post by booner22 on Jun 1, 2021 17:43:37 GMT -5
The only issue I have had vs the hunter is I am unable to remove the breechplug without breaking the rifle down. The rifle doesn’t open far enough to get it out for me. I took my roll pin out and glued the spring to the ejector. I can service it anytime. With the plug I have even with removing the extractor the gun doesn’t open far enough to remove the plug. The hunter there is no issues. The pin to breakdown the rifle is a complete PITA to remove also. |
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Post by lbahunter on Jun 8, 2021 21:14:35 GMT -5
I got a new Scout today. Now I need a breech plug installed. Will probably go with ASG 209 plug. I will eventually get the DI replacement plug.
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