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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2015 0:24:00 GMT -5
I'm building a new gun for bean field work. It is a little late, but does anyone have anything to say, good or bad, about Criterion barrels?
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Post by mtj555 on Jul 19, 2015 9:26:40 GMT -5
Wasn't Criterion made by Krieger?
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Post by Hank on Jul 19, 2015 9:40:05 GMT -5
I have never used a Criterion barrel so I can't say anything...
Jeff.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2015 11:00:06 GMT -5
Criterion is a spin off or subsidiary of Krieger. The Criterions are button rifled where Krieger is cut rifled. I should have the barrel around months end and will give a range report after assembly and some range time.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2015 11:14:35 GMT -5
That sounds very interesting. I can't find any 45 cal's on their web site? Is this a custom deal??
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2015 13:58:19 GMT -5
I should have clarified. It is going to be a 308 rifle.
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Post by dannoboone on Jul 19, 2015 18:03:44 GMT -5
There have been a lot of good comments about them over on savageshooters.com . I have one in 7-08 that I
put on a Marlin XS, but didn't do much with it prior to putting a ML barrel on the XS. It's set up for switch
barrel, but have had trouble with the McGowen barrel, got disgusted and it's just been sitting around for
over a year. I'm going to give it one more range session and if it doesn't live up to expectations, the
Criterion barrel will go back on permanently.
Are you getting yours from NSS? For a Savage or Remmy?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2015 22:34:38 GMT -5
I ordered it from Jim at NSS for a Savage small shank SA. Apparently, NSS is the actual distributor for Criterion when it comes to individual orders like we would make. I started to buy a McGowen but when I called them they were rude on the phone. So, I called Jim at NSS and couldn't be more pleased with his service so far in the process. I'm anxious to get it together when it comes.
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Post by markb317 on Jul 19, 2015 23:31:21 GMT -5
They are very good shooting barrels. I have had two that would shoot with custom built guns. I have a 6.5 X 284 that shot a 5 shot.3415 center to center group at 100yds after having about 1200 rounds through it, and a .243 that would shoot through 30 caliber ho!es at 100 yds.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2015 23:53:42 GMT -5
They are very good shooting barrels. I have had two that would shoot with custom built guns. I have a 6.5 X 284 that shot a 5 shot.3415 center to center group at 100yds after having about 1200 rounds through it, and a .243 that would shoot through 30 caliber ho!es at 100 yds. That sounds awesome! Thanks for the input guys! |
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Post by Richard on Aug 7, 2015 20:28:25 GMT -5
308 for a bean field rifle? I would be thinking more along the lines of a .280 Ackley or a 6.5 on an 06' case or an improved .284 case? Then again, it depends on the length of that bean field!  Nothing wrong with the .308 cartridge but not as flat shooting as the ones mentioned; thats all. |
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Post by keith on Aug 7, 2015 20:36:45 GMT -5
No flies on the .308 Win; I've shot around 800 rounds of the stuff to 800m this week with good results. I worry about wind a lot more than drop.
I used to shoot a lot of .280 Improved but after the SAAMI issue I dropped it in favor of the 7mm RM and a couple of short action rounds to include .308 Win.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2015 11:19:58 GMT -5
I chose 308 for several reasons. Availability of components. Components that I currently use in other 30 caliber rifles. I have no business ( me personally, as a deer hunter) taking unethical shots beyond 600 yards. I bedded it and assembled over the last 2 days and went to the range today. I ran the OCW load tests and came up with a 168gr Berger hunting vld over 45.7gr to 46.35gr of Varget in Lapua cases at 2875 fps yielded dime size groups at 120 yards. Looks like 46.0gr Varget will be my load. i am very pleased with Criterion and also Jim at Northland Shooters for his over and above service in cleaning and inspecting the barrel before shipping it to me.  |
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Post by dannoboone on Aug 8, 2015 13:03:24 GMT -5
Great looking setup and shooting! Could ya let the ignorant in on something?....I'm wondering about the location of the level on the scope? I have no clues about scope levels, because of doing by the "redneck" method of a carpenter's level on the target and aligning X-hairs with target lines.  Jim is fantastic to deal with, and he goes a step further in cleaning and inspecting barrels. I've also gotten good deals from him with three VLP's (blind mags) that were discounted when Savage brought out the magazine models. I could deal with the blind mags for the price difference!! |
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Post by keith on Aug 8, 2015 13:20:05 GMT -5
Great looking setup and shooting! Could ya let the ignorant in on something?....I'm wondering about the location of the level on the scope? I have no clues about scope levels, because of doing by the "redneck" method of a carpenter's level on the target and aligning X-hairs with target lines. Once you get your gun set up and leveled, you level your reticle and tighten the screws, then you get your bubble level reading center. Once you have everything in set up you use that scope level to ensure you aren't canting the gun when you shoot because you often don't have a good frame of reference without it. It prevents you from inducing lateral travel and drop; as little as 5 o will cause a mil. The further you shoot the more important it is but they are good for training position all the time. |
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Post by dannoboone on Aug 8, 2015 13:30:32 GMT -5
Keith, I understand all that, but the bubble location question should have been more explicit.
Why is the level in front of the target turret where it seems it cannot be seen from a shooting
position?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2015 14:40:31 GMT -5
If it is behind the turret, the shooter will not have clear view of the turret. I am a right hand shooter so if I open my left eye then I can see the level with it while holding the gun on target. Some people shoot with both eyes open but I close my left after checking the level. I assume a left hand shooter would mount it on the right side. On my ML, I had 3 inches of right windage from 100 to 300 yards due to cant. After installing a level it is all good now.
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Post by keith on Aug 8, 2015 14:57:32 GMT -5
I use my level between the ocular housing and the erector housing and it does not obscure my turret; whether the level goes in front of or behind the rear ring sort of depends on how the scope is mounted. It's the most common configuration I have seen as well. I don't have access to my personal guns for a picture right now and I can't take pictures of the guns here but I I can tell you where the levels are located on all of them.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2015 16:26:04 GMT -5
This build has performed so well that I have ordered two more barrels that will be delivered 8/31. More build pics to come
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Post by Hank on Aug 30, 2015 17:34:09 GMT -5
That rifle looks good...... What are the other builds going to be chambered for...?
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Nothing wrong with the .308 cartridge but not as flat shooting as the ones mentioned; thats all.
