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Post by GMB54-120 on Jun 27, 2020 8:35:08 GMT -5
Thank you, now we know what it was even if it did require some coaxing and uneeded drama to find out.
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Post by kip on Jun 27, 2020 12:41:25 GMT -5
two of the most experienced and valuable members of our board. It's like john lennon and paul mccartney pickin at each other over the lyrics of a song they are writing, lol. love you both.
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Post by kip on Jun 27, 2020 12:45:17 GMT -5
I wish I could safely shoot the 4227 in my conversion, that stuff was getting results, but the powder column was too short for this gun.
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Post by ehart on Jun 27, 2020 14:07:30 GMT -5
I'm really thinking I would like to use straight loads of 4227 as well instead of just duplex. The issue you had concerns me. I am thinking if I just add a wad to my light loads then, maybe. What do you think. I am planning to measure the length ahead of the plug to the rifling to get a better idea of how much powder I need to stay out of trouble.
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Post by kip on Jun 27, 2020 19:20:32 GMT -5
ehart, it is about .542 of the old 45-70 chamber in front of the His or Dis plug, and the amount of powder that the nose of my His plug holds looks to be substantial too so you have to figure that in also. I gauged the space in front of the plug by lowering a loading/cleaning jag down the bore. You can feel the jag drop down into the space when the back edge of it passes the lip. My jag was about 3/8" long and after passing the lip it seemed to have another 1/8" to go before hitting the plug. The guy that told me his apex had .542 length in that space seems about right to me. He also seems to think the N110 was the real culprit but he had been shooting 4227 also so had to throw that info in there as a possibility. there are some bullets that 4227 will do good with in my gun that 4198 won't such as the barnes tez 250. I really hijacked this thread didn't I? sorry guys.
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Post by hillbill on Jun 27, 2020 20:39:56 GMT -5
Easy way to see if a specific load is too small:
remove your plug take a wooden dowel or drill bit turned backwards, insert til it touches rifling, slide a bullet down the bore til it touches the dowel or bit, precisely mark your ramrod at the crown.
push bullet out, reinstall plug, pour in load, reload bullet/wad or no wad combo, seat it and see where the mark lands, if you are above the crown with your mark you are good to go.
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Post by Richard on Jun 28, 2020 6:57:39 GMT -5
Excellent Bill!
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Post by kip on Jun 28, 2020 13:06:16 GMT -5
Hillbill, thanks very much for that information! very good! I was wanting a way to find out where exactly the bullet was in relation to that area.
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Post by ehart on Jun 29, 2020 5:55:43 GMT -5
Thanks Bill! The drill bit tip worked great. Then instead of seating a bullet I just marked a dowel to measure a minimum powder load. I didn't want to have a bunch of different measurements for different bullets I'm trying.
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Post by kip on Jun 30, 2020 22:05:38 GMT -5
thanks again Bill, I did the thing you explained and I am very happy with the results, My scout conversion with the His breechplug will take 45 grains of Imr 4227 and the bottom of the wool wad is at least 1/8" up into the rifling. thank you so much for explaining this.
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Post by samdavismtg on Jul 22, 2020 22:08:22 GMT -5
I’m searching for replacement stock for CVA scout. Any suggestions?
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