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Post by joelmoney on Nov 22, 2019 18:12:09 GMT -5
Well I got to hair test the 458. The load consisted of a 250gr Monoflex and 36.3gr of H-110 at a COL of 2.145” This one is the buck I slapped in the pelvis buy my .40 SML. I tried to mercy shoot it laying on it’s side chest towards me. Came in the knee and went up humerus. Obliterated knee and shattered 4”of humerus. The impact broke humerus full length   This one was broadside 40 yards it was getting late and it was on the property line so I wanted it down ASAP. I went threw both humerus. She didn’t give up the ghost very easily but it did the job.  I shot another last day tags needed filling and came in mid abdomen and lodged in the front of front offside leg. The blade was completely shattered. |
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Post by deadeer on Nov 22, 2019 18:34:14 GMT -5
Wow. Serious destruction! Congrats! I am under the logic better to lose a leg than lose the whole deer.
Better than an SST that grenades all day long. The FTX seems to hold together more like a bonded than the SST. The mono bullets are hard to beat.
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Post by joelmoney on Nov 22, 2019 19:28:35 GMT -5
I was really amazed the knee shot opened the Monoflex properly. The projectile entered the skin and almost immediately was crushing bone. I certainly wouldn’t expect a perfect expansion of a monolithic projectile encountering such medium.
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Post by joelmoney on Oct 9, 2021 15:23:21 GMT -5
FatFred the above picture I trying to mercy shoot one it hit the knee drilled 5” of bone and came to rest looking like above. I don’t think we have lost a petal on a 250 Monoflex.
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Post by fatfred on Oct 10, 2021 5:18:12 GMT -5
I was very surprised that the water jug test ripped off all the petals. A few months ago I recovered one of these behind my 200 yd target in a dirt bank. It was fully expanded which I have found to be rare in dirt but I think the tip being forced into the cavity helps. Velocity was probably 1400 fps-ish. Impact on water jug was 2000 fps-ish. It will not stop me from using them since any other soft point would have probably come apart way more than this. I was just surprised. I would be very surprised to even recover one of these in a deer unless I hit one head on or had to break both shoulder and also catch spine. Both angles would only be taken on a big buck where I need to make a snap decision. On does, I would only take a side view pocket shot. It will be the one I use this year when I carry this gun.
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Post by fatfred on Oct 18, 2021 12:11:13 GMT -5
Had a great range session today with both my SOCOM and my OLD Rem 700 in 7mm Mag. I first shot the 7mm at 100 with basically the only load it's fired since 2014 or so. 72 gr RE22, Win std primer and 120 gr Barnes TTSX at 3.24 COL. This has been speed tested at 3,425 fps over a chrony. It was right where I left it from last year and I printed a 13/16" group about 1" high. Normal. Went to 200 and shot a 1 3/16" 3 shot group about 2" right but dead on. Not worried about the windage cause there was a stiff breeze left to right. Next came out the .458. I've kinda settled on my load for serious things like hunting. 33 gr Lil'gun, Fed STD Large pistol primer and the 250 gr monoflex. Somewhere around 2,050 fps+. 1st three were at 100 yds and it was dead on and made a 2 1/4" horizontally strung group perfect up and down. Went to 200 yds and shot three more. I like to shoot a homemade target where I make a black square on white paper. It lets me naturally see 4 equal quadrants in the scope and with a dead solid rest and a good squeeze, I think I do better with this sight picture than aiming at an orange dot. At 200, I make the square twice as big so the sight picture looks the same. With the .458, you can usually see the bullet holes in the paper on 9x....unless you hit the edge of the square. I couldn't see any holes at all. Because of the stiff cross breeze, I also had been waiting for lulls in the wind to take these 3 shots. I went up to the target kinda uneasy that something was wrong. However I was pleasantly surprised. I was aiming at a larger square and had a smaller square below it for 100yd shooting. All three had dropped into the lower square and all of them had hit a black edge of the square and that's why I could not see them in the scope. CTC I had a 1 3/4" group 9" low. Best 200 yd group yet with this gun. I am done trying new stuff I think. One cool thing today was target checking using my new Ebike. I saved 1200 yds of walking to put up and check targets and cut my range time in half.
Gun opener is NOV 20. These guns will be put away. Next up is the 30-30 and the Savage ML. The 30-30 will be easy confirming last years load of 150 Barnes TSX. The Savage will be a bit of experimenting. It loves the 325 FTX and 70 gr H4198, Harv CR Sabot. Gonna try and make the 250 mono's scream like I used to do with the 250 Barnes TMZ's back in the day. They were .451 though but still shot pretty good. The Mono's at .458 may be very accurate if the FTX's are any indication being .458. I used to load 80 gr H4198 and get almost 2,900 fps. That's a lazer beam for the Savage even though not as hot as what some are doing. Will keep ya posted.
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Post by fatfred on Dec 24, 2021 13:30:45 GMT -5
So, I shot a button buck by accident last day of rifle. Used the SOCOM and monoflex. 50 yd broadside shot, double lung no bones. 30 yd scamper and down. Large entrance and exit. 1/2 dollar? No bullet recovery and I guess I do not expect many with a copper. I looked for my spent casing for like 20 minutes before I followed up the shot with no luck. Other than that, no other hair test. I am using the same bullet in my Savage for late ML season at 2,616 fps ave confirmed by labrader using 75 gr IMR4198. Ouch!. LOL
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Post by fatfred on Jan 30, 2022 14:31:15 GMT -5
Just to close the loop on the last post. Never fired a shot during ML season. Gun is still loaded with red tape over the muzzle. Will leave it loaded until next year unless I need to use it on something before then. Can't imagine what....maybe a migrating sasquatch. LOL
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