Post by elkman1310 on Apr 12, 2018 12:08:15 GMT -5
I have had two over the years it got a bad reputation for being a barrel burner. I you hunt varmints all summer long yes you can toast a barrel but for a deer hunter it will probably last you a life time. Today with all the great bullets for the 6.5 it makes it a great mid sized game rifle which is exactly what it was designed for. If you want a hot 6.5 buy a Weatherby Vanguard in a 6.5/300 and you will really have a screamer at a modest price.
Post by speedrackin on Apr 13, 2018 9:14:11 GMT -5
I was 2 ..... i was thinking about building a 6.5 CM but after investigating the 6.5 i think there are better options ....marketing and fads .... barrel burn out .....i guess if ur gonna sit there and pile up empty brass at prairie dogs .... ya maybe ... but work up ur hand load .... get it set up and pull it out for those long range adventures ..... im sure my sons son will be shooting it .
Post by smokelessk on Apr 14, 2018 19:28:18 GMT -5
A little thought on the barrel burner philosophy. How much does it cost to burn out a barrel? Figure if you do it in a thousand rounds with say a bullet that costs 30-40 cents, 8 pounds of powder at $170, a thousand primers at $35-40. Plus whatever you spent on cases. So with the last factor (cases) being perhaps the largest variable (could be 40 cents a case to over a buck a case) putting 1,000 rounds through your barrel could easily cost you a grand to do it. For every 1,000 rounds after the cases are paid for figure another $500-$700 per thousand. Point being, what does it matter if the barrel has to be replaced at 1,800 rounds? If the cartridge is a performer that fills the role needed a $5-600 barrel replacement doesn't seem like too big a deal. When it possibly cost two grand in components to shoot the barrel out? We all might differ from my line of thinking here but certainly no one is going to claim that anything about what we enjoy doing is cheap. Unless ones pockets are significantly deeper than I can imagine. Just my thoughts anyway.
Firing rate can torch a barrel a lot sooner than 1800 rounds. Overheating the barrel is a big barrel killer. Slow rate of fire that allows the barrel to cool will allow the barrel to have the most longevity. We used to keep coolers of ice water to dunk the barrel in while on a busy varmint hunt. I have seen a 220 Swift Improved trashed in 200 rounds as the guy did not stop shooting. He wondered why he started missing every shot.
Post by elkman1310 on Apr 16, 2018 19:21:54 GMT -5
Generally on a 6.5 match barrel chambered in 6.5/284 you can get 800 to 1,000 rounds before the barrel is shot out for serious competition work but for general hunting it will go a lot longer with proper maintenance. Any 6.5 cartridge that is over bored from a 260 Rem on up with have carbon problems right ahead of the lead angle into the throat if not cleaned properly the barrel will stop shooting long before its worn out. This carbon problem if let in checked will be hard to remove no matter what kind of solvent you try.
Barrel life on a SS barrel in a .264 win mag will generally start going south in 600 rounds I don't know of anyone using one for 1K competition on our range for the reason we only see a small number of 6.5 and 7mm everything today is 6mm Dasher or something very similar to it and the 300 WSM they hold all the records now.
Post by speedrackin on Apr 17, 2018 9:32:39 GMT -5
has turned int o an interesting thread on 6.5..... im just looking to build a some what long range whitetail antelope gun .... not a bench shooter ..... i prefer belted case i already have a 77 mag in a ruger 31 that shoots lites out ...just looking for variety.....eventually a bigger walkin gun vault will be needed......
Post by elkman1310 on Apr 17, 2018 14:57:47 GMT -5
I really like the 6.5 caliber. I competed with a 260 Rem in high power silhouette for many years long before the 6.5 CM came into being. I have also used a 6.5/284 Norma for 1K competition for a while it did very well with it. Since your looking for a 6.5 to hunt with then you have many options to choose from and bullets. Getting back to the .264 that would be a good one so would 6.5/300 whby. The 26 Nosler in a factory chambering has the bullet seated way to deep in the cartridge and a very long freebore just like the 28 Nosler which I did several reports on. I had a custom built 6.5/300 whby several years ago and they are the fastest 6.5 you can get also the brass is avaible now before we had to neck down the 300 whby and the case necks used to split. So build something and have fun with it.
Hey, if everything we had was practical, it wouldn't be nearly as much fun. I've been going back and forth on putting together something different. Even have an action waiting for a new barrel. I'd for sure opt for a 264 WM over a Creedmor. Still, the weatherby would be fun... LOL