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Post by schunter on Jan 29, 2018 13:39:55 GMT -5
Went coyote hunting this past weekend. Think I am hooked! On the second set had two yotes come in running on a road bed. If they leave the road bed they are gone. With the bolt action I was carrying I was hoping they would stop but they didn't. Got me to thinking maybe an AR??
Shots would be 300 and in. What would be a good entry level gun and caliber??? Maybe $500-$600 range. I know very little about AR's. |
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Post by bowhunter836 on Jan 29, 2018 14:00:20 GMT -5
I have used a R-15 in .223 for about 8years and have killed alot of coyotes with it out to 250yrds I'm sure with a little work it would shoot 300yrds
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Post by hillbill on Jan 30, 2018 9:13:52 GMT -5
Scott
It's a buyers market these days for the black guns, I would try to find one with a rep for good barrels, if you have someone close that knows ARs you might build one, it's all about the quality of the barrel and trigger. 300 should not be a problem with an accurate gun.
I have considerably more than 500 in all my ARs but there are decent guns out there that don't break the bank. check Rock River Arms to start. Some guys like the S&W M&P line but personally I have no experience with them.
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Post by schunter on Jan 30, 2018 14:35:47 GMT -5
Looked at a few during lunch today. I will have to spend up closer to $1000 I believe. Didn't like the S&W M&P that I looked at. The adjustable butt stock was cheap and was very loose and rattled. I did like the Springfield Saint Edge. Also looked at a Head Down that felt good in my hands.
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Post by gd357 on Jan 30, 2018 20:51:45 GMT -5
A few thoughts... First, love the AR platform for coyotes. Quick second shots are easy. Will second what hillbill said about Rock River. Probably the best factory rifles that are still "reasonably" priced.
You'll get more bang for your buck by assembling a gun. You will wind up with the specifics you want rather than compromising for a finished factory rifle.
If you're looking at a heavy barrel, you won't want any more than 18". They get too heavy for field work past that. I've had good luck with the .223 Wylde chambering & 1/8 twist. Would go with 5.56 1:9 if that's not an option. JMHO
If you get a factory trigger, it will likely be too heavy. Delta Team Tactical has some good deals on replacement triggers. Bill Springfield also does a good job of lowering pull weight on factory triggers.
Good luck with your hunt, and let us know what you get!
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Post by schunter on Jan 31, 2018 8:58:26 GMT -5
Thanks for the input guys. I will look at Rock River if I can find one locally to put my hands on. Me and my buddy did get a nice male at the first spot that morning. That lane is 315 yards long and if he is not in that lane you want see him. The spot we called the two in is very similar. Cant wait to go again Saturday morning. Here is a pic of my buddy with the one we got Saturday morning. His 6.5 Creedmoor and 95 VMax turned out the lights.  |
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Post by dennis on Jan 31, 2018 9:56:08 GMT -5
A friend of mine had a Rock River and it was a quality rifle.
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Post by joelmoney on Jan 31, 2018 21:26:06 GMT -5
I worked up a load for a buddy with a Rock River needed small base dies but I never thought a semi-auto could be so accurate. Best wishes on whatever you choose.
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Post by schunter on Feb 3, 2018 22:09:16 GMT -5
Looked at a Rock River yesterday and really liked it. To be honest I have AR overload! Daniel defense has had the best trigger so far but also the most expensive. Went hunting this morning at 21 degrees with no luck at all.
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Post by smokelessk on Feb 3, 2018 23:46:21 GMT -5
Barrel, free floated handguard, trigger, and optics. In my opinion those 4 items make for the difference in the realm of black guns on the market. Really only 3 of those items are specific to the gun itself. Optics are an add on. Just go for quality in those three items and it's hard to go wrong. Quality optics doesn't hurt either (other than the pocket book)
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Post by tnbowhunter on Feb 9, 2018 4:31:08 GMT -5
I have a Remington r15 with a rock river varmint trigger that I hunt coyotes with. I was very shocked at how accurate that gun is after being a bolt gun guy for so long. I am gonna build my next ar and I'm going with the 224 Valkyrie with this one.
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Post by gd357 on Feb 23, 2018 1:04:12 GMT -5
If you have any questions/concerns, feel free to pm me...
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Post by hillbill on Feb 23, 2018 20:50:50 GMT -5
Scott, I have a lot of experience with the Devil guns.
one can build a good shooter pretty easily now days. ever think 6.8 SPC? Think about this, I have migrated to 6.8s for 2 reasons, they can pull their weight and then some without being limited to the .223 load.
My 6.8s are deer killing, coyote killing machines and can also serve very well as a self defense gun. 6.8 ammo is easy to come by these days and will likely be around as long as we are. buy whatever lower you want, put a good trigger in it and have an upper built, heck, I can build you one.
when I carry a CF I never reach for anything else but my six eight, it's a deer stomper out to 325 or so and has very little recoil.
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Post by schunter on Feb 26, 2018 8:23:46 GMT -5
What bullet weight are you shooting and velocity?
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Post by hillbill on Feb 26, 2018 14:12:05 GMT -5
SSA 100 grain pro hunter@ about 2500 fps, very accurate, low recoil
you can get 120 SSTs factory loaded and they are a great deer/hog rounds also
I have about 800 95 grain Barnes TSX, bad little bullet but still shooting the factory SSA pro hunters til they are gone.
The 6.8 is designed around a 16" barrel and that's where it shines, my short gun is 31" long with the stock collapsed, that's without a flash hider which I never use anyway.
I have another with an 18" in a Mega machine monolithic upper, it's a really nice rig but the 16" gets carried a lot more often.
The .223 Valkarie is getting big these days (.223 bullet in a 6.8 case) but for all around use I will stick to the 6.8 anyday. Hard to beat the .270 dia bullet at lower velocity for an efficent killer.
I have one .223 left but it never gets used these days, I just traded one last fall for a new bow because I never used it after building the six eights.
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