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Post by tnhunter on Dec 9, 2017 20:42:50 GMT -5
I’ve got a factory rem 700ml 45 cal that I set up for my son to use with 60 grains of BH 209 and a pr bullet. When I lined the gun up back in warmer weather I didn’t have any issues. I fired the gun this morning to unload it because it had been loaded since the first season and it slow fired on me. I didn’t really think that much about it. I took it apart and gave it a good cleaning and put it back together and loaded it. This evening my son shot at a 8 point and it did the same thing causing a miss. What could my problem be? I didn’t fire a primer after cleaning is the only thing I can think of and maybe there was a little moisture in the plug or vent liner. This gun has the bolt nose kit and savage plug. I loaded the gun back after he missed then fired it once I got home to see what it would do and it fired just fine. Could the cold weather affect it?
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Post by doug136 on Dec 9, 2017 20:56:21 GMT -5
I guarantee it's because you did not fire any caps off after cleaning . Cold weather in my experience has no effect . I compete with Blackhorn 209 . I shot over 25lbs last year . That's honestly the truth . The only time I will have a hang fire is after a cleaning. I would fire 2 or 3 caps after a cleaning and before a hunt . This is just my opionion and experience others may think differently
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Post by a1smokepole on Dec 9, 2017 23:10:33 GMT -5
what primer or you using. you need a magnum primer to work best and clean all the oil out of your barrel before you load it.
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Post by buckdoehunter on Dec 10, 2017 1:11:11 GMT -5
Have you taken a drill bit, turned by hand, into the flash channel to remove all of the carbon buildup?
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Post by tnhunter on Dec 10, 2017 7:19:37 GMT -5
I am shooting the CCI primers. What’s the hottest primer I can use? When I clean I use a drill bit and a tap on the plug and vent liner threads. All I ever use on the barrel is BH209 cleaner and I run several dry patches to make sure it’s dry. I figure my problem is cause I didn’t shoot a primer and had some cleaner left in the plug causing a hang fire.
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Post by bestill458 on Dec 10, 2017 7:39:54 GMT -5
Bullet fit should be snug also.
After gun is loaded do take it in and out of a heated area.
A loaded muzzleloader should be keep in unheated garage or area.
Quick temp swings will sweat and dampen powder.
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Post by jims on Dec 10, 2017 14:55:59 GMT -5
Many think the Fed 209a primers have the most fire in them.
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Post by Kyle on Dec 10, 2017 23:42:12 GMT -5
Black powder is water based. Sulfur, Saltpeter and Charcoal are mixed in specific amounts with water. The water is then evaporated out and what is left behind is called a cake. The cake is broken up with the granules sifted and grouped to size, single f, double f and so on. Black powder and other water based propellants absorb water when exposed to rain, humidity etc. Hot Soapy Water is a good cleaner for a barrel fouled with black powder.
Blackhorn is oil based. Ever heard the old saying water and oil don’t mix? Blackhorn does not draw humidity and water like black powder. Blackhorn is best cleaned with oil based solvents. These same oil based solvents will cause hangfires and fail to fires if not completely removed from all internal surfaces of the barrel, flame channel and ignition system. If I couldn’t shoot smokeless, I’d definitely shoot Blackhorn over the other subs on the market. Blackhorn is a proven propellant with many pluses.
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Post by tnhunter on Dec 11, 2017 9:45:53 GMT -5
Now that I think of it I had taken the breech plug apart and cleaned with solvent both times it had hang fired without shooting a primer before loading to blow any solvent left in there out. I guess ill do this from now on. Thanks guys for the help.
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Post by doug136 on Dec 12, 2017 6:29:41 GMT -5
Like I previously posted . The only time I have a hang fire is after cleaning . If I shoot plenty of 209s off before loading I have had no issues . I'll almost bet that was your problem .
Good luck this season and Merry Christmas !
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