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Post by joelmoney on Apr 22, 2017 22:24:13 GMT -5
Well earlier I was thinking of a tactical/hunting rifle and after lots of thought I realized I would be shooting steel 95% of time with the rifle. I have been leaning towards a 6mm thinking it will be easier to see my own hits. I also started pricing components and think I might shoot a 6mm more. How much difference is there in spotting misses with a 6mm vs a 6.5? What bullets are worth looking at for shooting as far as a 6mm will take me. I shoot out to 600 once a year with my 338 RUM but I want something I can shoot at least monthly with. I would also like something that I can also shoot more than 20 rounds with before I really have to work not to flinch with. I would like to build good long range shooting habits. How far can a person push a 6mm and what cartridges should I be looking at.
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Post by linebaugh on Apr 23, 2017 6:26:53 GMT -5
There is nothing wrong with a 6mm and for cost of components and the fact that you have less recoil and possibly more velocity potential I would call it superior. To spot your own hits you need to get rid of recoil and have superior glass especially as the range opens up.
Whatever you build make sure you have a brake and put good glass on top. I would rather see a factory rifle set up right with $1500 in glass than a custom rifle with junk optics. To do the long range thing glass is important!
As for ballistic advantage just run the numbers. All you need is the BC of the bullet and velocity. In the case of the 6mm you will want to focus on the sleek 105-115gr bullets.
How far can you shoot? I shoot a 22250AI with a 90gr berger vld at 3150 in precision rifle matches out to 850 yards. I can go farther but have not had a range that allows it yet. The 6mm has similar or better BC and with the right cartridge and bbl length you can duplicate my velocity... so you can shoot to as far as you want within reason.
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Post by hillbill on Apr 23, 2017 18:09:48 GMT -5
the 6.5s are worth a look as well if it will serve double duty, the 6.5x47, 260 and creedmoor are very good and easy on the shoulder, lots of good bullets out there too, you can also step up to the 6.5 GAP for work past 1000 with good results, with the right bullet combo they can all do well on game.
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Post by elkman1310 on Apr 24, 2017 7:18:43 GMT -5
the 6mm's Dashers are really doing well. We had one 10 shot group shot at our first match on Saturday that measured 3.9" I was testing loads the week before our match and Jay was there testing and he shot another 3.8" group in the evening. with most shots under 2" This a 17lb gun with a barrel tuner on it and a custom made 6" wide stock in the front also Jay Berger is a top shooter he works really hard at shooting small groups and winning matches.
AS far as seeing your hits a lot depends on what your shooting at. If it is steel plates the 6mm will do put as much of a mark on the plate as a larger caliber. also if you have a dirt back ground or a field with ground cover a 6mm will be harder to spot.
The 6mm will be a little cheaper and barrel life will be better than most 6.5" I shoot 6.5/284" and they do toast a barrel in 900 rounds. For general hunting accuracy they will go a lot longer but for 1,000 yard bench rest accuracy they gone in 800 to 1100 guaranteed.
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Post by markb317 on Apr 25, 2017 13:16:37 GMT -5
Both the 6.5 and 6mm are very good choices, I own both, and you can't go wrong either way. I shoot steel matches about every weekend I have off from work. The 260 is a good caliber for steel and hunting, I have hit the 12" mile target 3 out of 5 shots the last time I tried with it. My main gun now for long range shooting is a 6mm XC shooting 105 Berger Hybrids at 3148FT/sec. it is a very accurate combination.
There are several factory guns out now that shoot very well and have been proven shooters at the shoots. Ruger and Savage are a couple that make guns that shoot good, also MasterPiece Arms make a gun that is considered a factory class gun if you think you would want to try some PRS Series shooting.
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Post by joelmoney on Apr 27, 2017 1:18:52 GMT -5
PRS is where I'd like to end up but I need lots of practice prior. Thought of getting Ruger American and adding an adjustable cheek piece. I also am thinking of waiting and waiting having a custom rig made but how long will I procrastinate about that build.
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Post by linebaugh on Apr 27, 2017 8:09:02 GMT -5
I looked into trying to get into some of the big league PRS matches and can tell you I have much better ways to spend my time and money. Not to mention just getting in on events that are not booked up.
We have a local BorderWars PRS for Iowa and surrounding states but it's full too. Hope to get on board with that next year but who knows as it's probably full already. That pretty much leaves a guy shooting whatever down scale matches he is able to get to with a cpl hours driving time.
We had a guy locally shoot a Ruger American for one event that he bought just for PRS and he bought the Ruger PRS type rifle the next week. I only bring this up to say buy once cry once.
I am not overly competitive at present but am wainting impatiently for the rest of my parts to complete a custom build. It ads up really fast and doint the work myself and bargain shopping parts I will still have $3k or more in this build... with optics. I think that's a bargain but to be honest it's still a bunch of coin for a gun.
I may never be competitive at the sport but I plan to hunt with my rifle and the practice and learning of wind and drop while shooting is invaluable. If you look at it from that perspective it becomes a lot more realistic (justifiable) in application. That said someone mentioned buying a caliber big enough to hunt with, good idea! In addition you will meet some great people and nearly all of them are willing to help and share. I would suggest you go for it and shoot as much as you are able. The practice is invaluable and ringing steel beats punching paper in my book.
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Post by Richard on Apr 27, 2017 11:01:05 GMT -5
If you are not already aware, www.6mmbr.com/index.html is a good site for what your interested in. If they still have the Gun of the Week section, try looking at week #50  |
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Post by linebaugh on Apr 27, 2017 12:53:07 GMT -5
Man the guy in that article sure is young looking and ugly. 😉
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Post by Richard on Apr 29, 2017 18:45:26 GMT -5
I beg your pardon......................! |
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Post by joelmoney on May 1, 2017 9:41:08 GMT -5
Thanks for the link. I never dreamed of that kind of accuracy.
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