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Post by hillbill on Jan 5, 2017 13:22:04 GMT -5
It's hard to say but I didn't a lot for sure. i really didn't get a good rib shot with the .030, I purposely did some shoulders to check for penetration, they penetrated, the .021 on the big bodied buck did not? No real conclusions between the two?
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Post by Hank on Jan 5, 2017 18:48:33 GMT -5
As Bill said, We are pushing these bullets pretty hard and we have guns that are 10 times overkill for shooting deer. We are shooting deer with hand held cannons so expect some carnage no matter what bullet you shoot if you are pushing it at 3000 FPS..... Its almost like shooting a ground hog with a 58 grain V-Max at 3800 FPS,,,,, blows them up pretty good...
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Post by hillbill on Jan 5, 2017 19:27:54 GMT -5
All I can say is they are very accurate, (both versions) and they kill quickly.
it will take a lot of animals being downed with these bullets to draw any hard conclusions on killing performance, without a doubt they will be a great bullet for most applications, for all applications? there is no such bullet as far as I know in .45 caliber.
Most of us will shoot the Aeromax on long range stuff, that's what Kyle designed them for, don't know that we will find a better higher BC bullet for long range targets. for hunting 90% of us will use them for deer of one species or another and without a doubt they will work, I don't know that I would try a big bear or moose with one?
He has a winner IMO but lots of you guys will be trying them soon as well so the verdict is still out..
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Post by Kyle on Jan 5, 2017 20:05:36 GMT -5
As Hillbill stated, my bullets have been designed for long range hunting and target shooting and sold as such from day 1. That being said I will be testing MUCH THICKER jackets than .030" for accuracy, penetration and expansion for you guys that hunt close range at high velocity but occasionally might get to take a shot at game at a longer distance with "Minute of Deer" accuracy. Trying my hardest for you guys.
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Post by deadeer on Jan 5, 2017 20:30:06 GMT -5
Thanks for all your efforts Kyle!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2017 20:50:44 GMT -5
Does anyone think or know if bullets with thicker jackets generate more pressure and therefore may require less powder to achieve desired results??
I know in my break open a 275BE 'feels' lighter with regards to recoil as a 250FTX using same powder loads.
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Post by doug136 on Jan 5, 2017 20:58:09 GMT -5
Kyle will your .40 cal bullets be Accumax bullets or Aeromax ? Also what will be the actual diameter? One more question have you decided on weights yet ? Sorry for all the questions .
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Post by Kyle on Jan 5, 2017 21:02:00 GMT -5
Does anyone think or know if bullets with thicker jackets generate more pressure and therefore may require less powder to achieve desired results?? I know in my break open a 275BE 'feels' lighter with regards to recoil as a 250FTX using same powder loads. In my opinion, to build pressure consistently you need a bullet to obturate consistently. I would think a thinner jacket would obturate better/more and give a better seal therefore the potential for more pressure. This is assuming the same load, weight, bearing surface, smooth forming. |
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Post by Kyle on Jan 5, 2017 21:03:07 GMT -5
Kyle will your .40 cal bullets be Accumax bullets or Aeromax ? Also what will be the actual diameter? One more question have you decided on weights yet ? Sorry for all the questions . Aeromax. 200,225,250 for starters. |
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Post by doug136 on Jan 5, 2017 21:14:11 GMT -5
Sweet!!! Not gonna lie I'd love to see a 275 and 300 for BC . I know you Kyle they will be coming ! Thanks buddy for all you do .
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Post by schunter on Jan 6, 2017 7:58:34 GMT -5
Does anyone think or know if bullets with thicker jackets generate more pressure and therefore may require less powder to achieve desired results?? I know in my break open a 275BE 'feels' lighter with regards to recoil as a 250FTX using same powder loads.
If you look at some of the traces with same powder load the thinner jacketed bullets usually generate higher pressure.
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Post by schunter on Jan 6, 2017 8:05:14 GMT -5
I shot two doe's with the original 275 AM one at 65 and the other at 130 and they DRT. Shot both behind the shoulder and still had some shock in the shoulder but no meat loss. Lots of internal damage! Plan to hunt with the 275 hard core next year for a comparison.
Will also do the jug test on the 275 hard core for comparison.
Keep them coming Kyle!
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Post by deadeye on Jan 6, 2017 9:18:52 GMT -5
would be very interesting to see a 325 aeromax @ .050 jacket launched @ 700yds out of our guns w/ 3031 the loads we are currently using.
in the past the obturation problem ime- really showed up at 625-650yds,yes one time even a duplex load @2650fps.
would the copper jacket material obturate enough for long range stability smooth formed???///no wad,veggie or wool.
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Post by Kyle on Jan 7, 2017 9:48:50 GMT -5
would be very interesting to see a 325 aeromax @ .050 jacket launched @ 700yds out of our guns w/ 3031 the loads we are currently using.
in the past the obturation problem ime- really showed up at 625-650yds,yes one time even a duplex load @2650fps.
would the copper jacket material obturate enough for long range stability smooth formed???///no wad,veggie or wool.
I have some 325gr .040's and .050,s coming in February for testing. The .030's shot extremely well. I expect with the jacket alloy my maker is using that the .040's and .050's will obturate as well. |
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Post by deadeye on Jan 7, 2017 12:44:28 GMT -5
would be very interesting to see a 325 aeromax @ .050 jacket launched @ 700yds out of our guns w/ 3031 the loads we are currently using.
in the past the obturation problem ime- really showed up at 625-650yds,yes one time even a duplex load @2650fps.
would the copper jacket material obturate enough for long range stability smooth formed???///no wad,veggie or wool.
I have some 325gr .040's and .050,s coming in February for testing. The .030's shot extremely well. I expect with the jacket alloy my maker is using that the .040's and .050's will obturate as well. kyle,good thinking & it won't take long to prove out.
sight in w/ chrono @ 100yds,a couple @ 450yds & then to 700yds.
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Post by jsthntn247 on Jan 7, 2017 21:42:22 GMT -5
Can you shoot the 40 caliber bullets in a 45 with Sabots?
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Post by Kyle on Jan 7, 2017 22:02:20 GMT -5
Can you shoot the 40 caliber bullets in a 45 with Sabots? This bullet is designed primarily for bullet to bore. Shooting with sabots in a .45 or .50 should be doable, although may require sizing for optimal / desired fit. |
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Post by eml9 on Feb 20, 2017 20:39:41 GMT -5
Kyle , have the .40 and.50 aeromax jackets been made and tested yet ?
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Post by Kyle on Feb 20, 2017 20:55:11 GMT -5
Kyle , have the .40 and.50 aeromax jackets been made and tested yet ? Not yet. The first production run of .021's will be made first. Then a small batch of 100 ea in the .040 and .050 for testing at high velocity. Unsatisfactory tips were produced and provided to my bullet maker, tips had to be sourced through a different manufacturer and this is causing the delay on the Aeromax. |
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Post by eml9 on Feb 20, 2017 21:58:17 GMT -5
Okay. Thanks
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