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Post by gard on May 17, 2016 5:33:25 GMT -5
I suppose the number of grains is about the same
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Post by 1murphy on May 17, 2016 9:28:04 GMT -5
Hammer Great gun!!! Love the idea of suppressed muzzleloader. I presume there is reduced recoil as well. So this gun is not using Jeff's plug at all or in conjunction with your direct ignition? Is there a powder chamber like your first one? I suppose a regular 700ml isn't up to the pressure and you need a centerfire 700.
Watching and wanting with interest!!!
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Post by gard on May 17, 2016 13:22:09 GMT -5
Your probably the only one in the U.S. Shooting a muzzle loader 30 cal if not u are the only one shooting one with a choked barrel lol well call that gun Full Choke lol
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Post by rob on May 17, 2016 19:31:44 GMT -5
Great job and shooting. Phil thanks for the info the other day on your system, and as soon as some more tooling shows up I'll be giving it a try. An estimate on Quickloads shows that load to be at 57,055 psi at 3,312 fps. This only a rough estimate. If you let me shoot it for about 6 months I can get you some better data. Haha.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2016 20:41:37 GMT -5
Hammer Great gun!!! Love the idea of suppressed muzzleloader. I presume there is reduced recoil as well. So this gun is not using Jeff's plug at all or in conjunction with your direct ignition? Is there a powder chamber like your first one? I suppose a regular 700ml isn't up to the pressure and you need a centerfire 700. Watching and wanting with interest!!! Yes the recoil is very mild with the suppressor or the brake. This gun is not set up to use Jeff's plug, but it could be very easily. My other 30 cal. can use either system by swapping out the breech plugs. There is a powder chamber slightly smaller than the other 30. I don't know about the 700 ml .
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2016 20:44:21 GMT -5
Gard, Swinglock makes a 30 cal. but I'll bet his barrels are not choked lol.
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Post by Richard on May 17, 2016 20:56:49 GMT -5
Correct me if I am wrong Phil..............Your system does not utilize a vent or bushing with small hole right? Therefore your primer flame is going directly into the powder and you need the locking lugs on the CF 700 to contain the pressure, right? I believe you could use the 700 ML but would need the vent or bushing to minimize the pressure flow back to the bolt face.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2016 21:01:58 GMT -5
Rob, I hope it works out well for you. Thanks for the Quickloads data. Since I am getting 100 fps more with a 25" barrel the pressure may be a little higher. I do know that the direct ignition modules can easily handle pressures up to where the primers start piercing. If you come to the next shoot you can shoot either gun all you want.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2016 21:24:55 GMT -5
Richard, you are correct no bushing or vent that is why I call it direct ignition. I also think you are right about using in a 700 ml with a vent or bushing. I just don't know how much pressure the threads of the module can handle overtime without a vent or bushing and no locking lugs.
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Post by doug136 on May 18, 2016 7:48:20 GMT -5
Why does a vent liner help with pressre rather than just a direct flash channel through the breech plug ? Im new and dumb
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2016 12:50:02 GMT -5
Doug136, the vent or bushing with it's small hole restricts the flow of high pressure gas from the powder side to the primer side which causes a delay in time as the pressures try to equalize. The delay allows the powder side pressure to drop before the full pressure reaches the primer side. With the direct ignition there is no vent or bushing so the primer is getting full pressure.
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Post by 1murphy on May 18, 2016 15:34:08 GMT -5
Hammer Your first barrel was a bull barrel with 5 inches of beef in front of the recoil lug.
Are you barrels you used on guns #2 and #3 using similar barrels?
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30 cal. #3
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Post by doug136 on May 18, 2016 21:18:33 GMT -5
Thanks for the response
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2016 21:44:02 GMT -5
1murphy, barrel #1 was a small shank factory Savage varmint contour chambered in 300 Win. mag., #2 was the Krieger 30 cal. blank #7 contour 1.250 for 5", #3 is a factory Remington varmint contour chambered in .308 Win.
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